The topic is about cities, not about rural areas. No cars in cities, simple. This concept will probably blow your mind: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Park_and_ride

Imagine a city without personal cars in its inner limits. Residents who decide to own a personal car can park it in a Park&Ride which also includes unlimited transit access for the duration of the parking.

Deliveries, you say? Those aren't personal cars, but I'll comply. Businesses will be able to drive in the cities, within the permitted times/routes.

Emergency vehicles? Those aren't personal cars, either. They're also allowed.

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pjmlp 6 days ago | parent [-]

I live in Germany, and don't need any lessons in Park and Ride.

What I need is a transport infrastructure that cares about people that live outside city central area.

Maybe it will blow your mind that with P+R some of us take about 2h to come to work, versus 45m with a car.

Spain, Portugal, Greece, Italy? P+R isn't even a known concept.

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randunel 6 days ago | parent [-]

Show me a city which banned personal cars and we'll check whether P+R transit to anywhere within is 2h. You can't, because there is no such city. It's personal cars that slow down transit, including preventing new rails being built to not dismay cherished drivers.

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pjmlp 6 days ago | parent [-]

Pity that such miracle cities don't exist for people living in the suburbs, with their 4x connections on average, from door to door.

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randunel 5 days ago | parent [-]

Indeed, such a city would prove you lot wrong.

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pjmlp 5 days ago | parent [-]

Glad to be proven wrong for the lucky folks living in the suburbs of such marvellous city without being second class citizens, pity that you didn't provide such example, while being so eager to talk others down.

Maybe because there isn't such El Dorado.

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randunel 4 days ago | parent [-]

I already said as much. Here's the quote from above:

> You can't, because there is no such city.

	▲	pjmlp 4 days ago \| parent [-]
		Waiting to be proven wrong with a counter example, shouldn't be so hard, to find at least one, instead of answering me with useless words.