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brettgriffin 5 days ago

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buu700 5 days ago | parent | next [-]

No, I'm not saying that. I already addressed my high school's ranking, so I'm not sure what point you think you're making by harping on that.

My point is that US public education isn't universally bad, not that it's universally good.

brettgriffin 5 days ago | parent [-]

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buu700 5 days ago | parent [-]

I'm not really sure what your problem is, but okay. My experience is a counterexample to the claim that American public education is bad. Maybe some public schools are bad, but not all. I chose to share a positive anecdote to balance out the negativity.

brettgriffin 5 days ago | parent [-]

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buu700 5 days ago | parent | next [-]

No, I didn't proceed to say anything of the sort. You're attacking a straw man.

Even if you choose to believe there's some interpretation of my original phrasing that could mean what you're suggesting, I've now clarified several times that the idea you're making a fuss over does not reflect my sentiments.

bell-cot 5 days ago | parent | prev [-]

> No, you chose to share the experience of a top 10 high school in a state and then proceed to say you don't understand how other people can say any of the other 25,000 public high schools in the country are bad.

While that might be your cultural understanding of, or personal reaction to, what he said - he actually did not say that.

If this subject is sensitive for you, or useful communication just isn't happening, then it might be better to drop it and move on.

brettgriffin 4 days ago | parent [-]

This isn't a cultural misunderstanding. I asked him to clarify what he couldn't reconcile and he didn't.

To be clear, I didn't actually need him to clarify it. I wanted him to understand the fallacy in his position.

Here's GPT's response to asking what the reconciliation is. You be the judge:

> The user is having a hard time reconciling the consistently negative narrative they’ve heard about American public education—that it’s failing, propagandistic, or poorly preparing students—with their own lived experience, which was overwhelmingly positive.

> They describe going to a well-resourced high school (McLean High, in a wealthy district) where teachers were excellent, curricula were rigorous, and their education prepared them well for life and career. That stands in stark contrast to the media and social media portrayal of American schools as “atrocious” and failing.

> In short: they can’t reconcile the national discourse (education in crisis) with their personal reality (education that worked extremely well for them).

To reconcile this, he needs to understand that his personal live experienced is independent of the experience lived by others with lesser resources.

bell-cot 4 days ago | parent | next [-]

Ah...okay.

When interacting with GPT - telling it that it holds some incorrect belief, then insisting that it acknowledge its belief to be wrong, and that you are right - that conversation can go quite well.

But when interacting with human beings - that conversation style generally works rather poorly.

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buu700 4 days ago | parent | prev [-]

I mean, at this point you're just lying, and I'm not really sure why. You're continuing to claim that I believe something that I not only never claimed to believe, but have repeatedly informed you I do not believe. Is there a particular reason you insist on attacking my character and/or intelligence based on a falsehood?

liveoneggs 4 days ago | parent | prev [-]

You should spend some time considering how that school got such a ranking in the first place.