Thing is, privacy with apple is a marketing term.

if apple offered actual privacy, you could:

- find out what/when apps are running

- find out who they are talking to

- prevent it, including apple if you want

and apple has all kinds of nonsense like deep links (apps can intercept links), bluetooth beacons (apps can talk to stuff in a store/location), and lots of other stuff behind the scenes. You can't find out if it is in use.

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catgirlinspace 2 days ago | parent | next [-]

If you go to Settings > Privacy & Security > App Privacy Report you can see domains contacted by an app, which apps contact a specific domain, and data and sensor access logs. Can also export it as a JSON file.

I think the data and sensor access logs is a newer feature since I don’t think I’ve seen it before, but network activity has been in there for at least a few years. The network activity is also only domains and ip addresses, nothing about protocol or what data was sent unfortunately.

https://support.apple.com/en-us/102188

	▲	m463 2 days ago \| parent [-]
		> - prevent it, including apple if you want

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fsflover 2 days ago | parent | prev | next [-]

It's even worse than that:

https://appleinsider.com/articles/24/04/10/apple-makes-it-re...

https://sneak.berlin/20231005/apple-operating-system-surveil...

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gertop 2 days ago | parent | prev | next [-]

> find out what/when apps are running

How do you do that on Android? You can inspect the manifest to see some triggers, but an app can set more triggers when it first launches.

Task managers have been killed by Google about 10 years ago and it's impossible to see that's running in real time.

If you enable developer mode you can kind of see a partial list of what's currently running I guess, is that what you're talking about?

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delfinom 2 days ago | parent | prev | next [-]

Not to mention Apple allows itself to use the data it gathers from you for itself, which is no different than Google.

	▲	theshrike79 2 days ago \| parent [-]
		Apple anonymises all data to a ridiculous degree, even when it's detrimental to the product's efficiency. Like fetching map routes in multiple anonymised parts so that they don't know where you're going.

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illiac786 2 days ago | parent | prev [-]

It’s like in politics, it’s not about absolute, it’s all relative.

What is the least worse option in terms of privacy, when comparing apple and google? I think there’s a broad consensus it’s apple. But let’s not call it the “best” option please.

You can go with something else than google and apple, they are not an inevitability. Alternate OSes offer significantly more freedom and privacy.