The 16e is 167 grams, where the Air is 165 grams. It feels like the Air is to the 16e what the Pro is to the standard titled iPhone — the expensive version.

Which makes the marketing feel a bit incongruent with what we've gotten here. It's not noticeably more lightweight than what is currently offered, it's less featureful than the 17, but more expensive than the 17 (albeit perhaps prettier).

It seems like engineering failed to make a true superlight in its class despite narratively trying to re-evoke what we really did experience with the original MacBook Air. Instead we got an elegant up sized 16e priced like a Pro.

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johanyc 6 days ago | parent | next [-]

It's also a bit weird that iPhone Air being an Air is more expensive. MacBook Air and iPad Air are the cheaper options in contrast

	▲	jainil 6 days ago \| parent \| next [-]
		No it isn't. The cheapest option is the iPad, then iPad Air and then Pro. It'll be the same with macs once the rumored A-chip based mac launches.
	▲	bapak 5 days ago \| parent \| prev \| next [-]
		Not weird. iPhone E, iPhone, iPhone Air, iPhone Pro There's no MacBook E and MacBook non-air, so the order matches.
	▲	riobard 5 days ago \| parent \| prev [-]
		Apple’s pricing structure is: X SE < X < X Air < X Pro.

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bapak 6 days ago | parent | prev | next [-]

You fail to mention that the 17 and 16e don't only differ by weight. Miniaturization is costly.

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akutlay 6 days ago | parent [-]

Yes but the name “Air” claims lightweight, not thin

	▲	liamwire 6 days ago \| parent [-]
		Air, as a product line, quite famously started with Jobs emphasising the thinness of the MacBook Air by pulling it from a paper folder. Taking what are ultimately marketing terms as literal face-value descriptors isn't particularly useful.

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SoKamil 6 days ago | parent | prev | next [-]

Footprint to weight ratio is an important factor. S25 Edge weights 163g but it felt noticeably lighter in hand than other phones with similar weight.

	▲	rifty 6 days ago \| parent [-]
		Definitely. I think many larger screen buyers of iPhonee will be happy there is the option to trade off the extra battery they used to get by default with a large screen for now less weight. It's just odd to me that despite its price it feels closer to a superthin upscaled e, rather than a superthin upscaled 17 or instead being extralight. Now I imagine they didn't have a lot of weight to lose given how optimized for weight phone components were already. The Air branding just had me hoping they had a bigger engineering statement to make than what they did.

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password54321 5 days ago | parent | prev [-]

A lot of pseudo-intellectual babble over what is clearly a cool piece of engineering that many people are excited about. Turns out, you can just do things, some people will think it's awesome while the people in the middle of the curve continue to keep the midwit meme alive.