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myth2018 5 days ago

> Likewise many companies in my slice of the industry point to one of the big leaders RTO policies as the reason to do the same

This also explains other things, not only RTO. Like when the mass layoffs started about three years ago. Overstaffed big-tech fired a few thousand allegedly idle employees and (not surprisingly) saw no impacts on output. That was enough for many smaller companies, some of them understaffed, to go on and do the same, surely encouraged by their investors. I have friends in a half dozen companies complaining about permanent overtime and severe project delays after the layoffs. Yet, referred companies are either not hiring, or doing it in a very leisurely pace.

keeda 5 days ago | parent [-]

> Overstaffed big-tech fired a few thousand allegedly idle employees and (not surprisingly) saw no impacts on output.

The part that's always glossed over in this narrative is that the remaining workers were forced to pick up the slack to keep up the output ("do more with less") which resulted in toxic work cultures. Ask any employees across BigTech companies and they'll tell you of this happening everywhere all at once -- formerly collaborative environments suddenly becoming cut-throat and competitive; high pressure and unreasonable goals for delivery; hiring being scaled back (except in offshore teams!) and new candidates being severely downleveled compared to their experience.

This was not a coincidence; Sure, there were slackers scattered everywhere, but the waves of layoffs were completely disproportional to that. The real intention was to bring the labor market, overheated during Covid and ZIRP, back under control (a power play, as other comments indicate.) And who better than Elon to signal that change with his shenanigans at Twitter.

If it seems surprising that output was not impacted (although I would argue a close look at Twitter shows the opposite) one just needs to look at the record levels of burnout being reported:

https://leaddev.com/culture/engineering-burnout-rising-2025-...

https://www.forbes.com/sites/bryanrobinson/2025/02/08/job-bu...

https://blog.theinterviewguys.com/workplace-burnout-in-2025-...

https://thehill.com/lobbying/5325471-burnout-erupts-among-pr...

neves 5 days ago | parent [-]

There's just one solution: unionize.

As you can see, your bosses already did.

thedevilslawyer 5 days ago | parent | next [-]

Unionization will never work, since immigrants would want protections no union would provide.

int_19h 3 days ago | parent [-]

Such as?

thedevilslawyer 3 days ago | parent [-]

Lobby for immigration support from companies, and against any politician/party that espouses any rhetoric (anti-H1B for eg) against legal immigration.

int_19h 3 days ago | parent [-]

Speaking as an immigrant who is now a US citizen, I don't think this is particularly relevant. As far as immigration support from companies goes, Big Tech already offers it, so the real beef is with the federal government - and a trade or company union is hardly the best venue to have that fight. I would first and foremost want a union that protects my interests as a worker against my employer's encroachment, and it was no different when I wasn't a citizen yet.

thedevilslawyer 2 days ago | parent [-]

Congrats. But the top priority for a non-citizen immigrant would be protection, above employer encroachment. Notice how this played out when twitter fired 85%, and who stayed back.

Unions being political players will have to take a side - and in the current climate this makes unions a non starter, since majority can never align.

ponector 4 days ago | parent | prev [-]

Can you unionize your offshore teams? Oh wait, that was one of the reasons to move your jobs overseas...

anticensor 2 days ago | parent | next [-]

Wouldn't they unionise in their own country?

neves 4 days ago | parent | prev [-]

You will need to create new organizations in a global economy.