It’s only 12 grams lighter than my iPhone XS. And it’s 20 grams heavier than my Pixel 4a. For a product called “air”, It doesn’t even succeed at being light-weight.

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SirMaster 39 minutes ago | parent | next [-]

It's a 6.5" screen. Weight alone isn't the metric. It's weight to screen size ratio. People like bigger screens it seems as evident by phone screens keep getting bigger and bigger.

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coder543 6 days ago | parent | prev | next [-]

Of course, the iPhone 5 weighed significantly less than either of those! The iPhone Air has a larger screen than all three of those. I don't see what your comparison has to do with anything. The Air is a light phone relative to its screen size. It is also an incredibly thin phone.

I'm probably not getting one, but I don't see the point of comparing it to physically smaller phones.

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bluSCALE4 5 days ago | parent [-]

17 Air - 2025 - 156.2mm x 74.7mm x 5.64mm, 165g

Sony Xperia Z2 - 2014 - 172mm x 266mm x 6.4 mm - 439g

Sony made nearly equally thin but lighter devices 11 years ago.

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coder543 5 days ago | parent [-]

> Sony Xperia Z2 - 2014 - 172mm x 266mm x 6.4 mm - 439g

Again, not nearly the same screen size, so weight is irrelevant. But also, 439g? Wow! If that number wasn’t completely wrong, that would be impressive.

6.4mm is nowhere near as thin as 5.6mm, but I’m actually seeing 8.2mm for thickness on reliable websites, not 6.4mm: https://m.gsmarena.com/sony_xperia_z2-6144.php

Did an LLM hallucinate those specs that you quoted? I honestly don’t know how the thickness and weight you quoted could be that far off if you did the research yourself.

But, even if you were right, which you don’t seem to be, it’s all moot. No one is cross-shopping a 2014 phone to a 2025 phone. But even if they were, the real numbers speak for themselves.

	▲	bluSCALE4 3 days ago \| parent [-]
		It's not wrong. I own 2 and we haven't caught up. These were 3G compatible as well.

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cogogo 6 days ago | parent | prev | next [-]

At least for me something so thin feels better with a bit of heft. And if you read the article the idea was to use any space saved for the battery. Seems pretty slick

	▲	PartiallyTyped 6 days ago \| parent [-]
		Higher density makes objects feel a lot more premium than their less dense counterparts.

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crossroadsguy 6 days ago | parent | prev [-]

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JumpCrisscross 6 days ago | parent [-]

> That weight is perfect weight

It’s just less. Less means it hits the ground softer when I drop it. Less means I’m less pissed off when I lose my AirPods and have to hold my phone up to my ear. Less means little moments of delight over how this engineered slab of minerals can do these things.

Do you remember the ad for the first MacBook Air? Even if you didn’t connect with it, can you recognise how someone else might?

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crossroadsguy 6 days ago | parent [-]

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kasey_junk 5 days ago | parent | next [-]

The commenter was specifically asked why they might be interested. They responded reasonably and in good faith. _You_ went wild and viewed it as any attack of some sort.

If anything is off it’s your belligerent anti-fandom. You are coming off as on tilt. Over someone else’s preferences in phones of all things.

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crossroadsguy 5 days ago | parent [-]

Really? I was literally calling out a "company" and an individual jumped in and I responded to that and now you are jumping in the middle and trying to teach me how I should see it? Is Apple attachment this strong around here? It just doesn't make sense to me. Is it some kind of cultural aspect of something? (And I respectfully want to make it clear here that these are rhetorical questions, I didn't really mean to ask them, and I do not hate you or that other HNer, it's just feels/felt weird).

	▲	kasey_junk 4 days ago \| parent [-]
		There isn’t much apple attachment on display in this thread. You should recalibrate if that’s what you are reading.

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JumpCrisscross 5 days ago | parent | prev [-]

> can you not appreciate how such cloying fandom (or apparent fandom) can kind of be, in a way, almost nauseating for someone and just move on?

No, I really can't.

I'm not into most sports. That doesn't make those games' fans nauseous. They've found something they love. I don't get their particular attachment. But that doesn't make it dumb, must less disgusting--I can empathise with their joy because I, too, have found things which delight me.

I can articulate, respectfully, why I think their games are dumb. But I can also recognise that's a subjective opinion about aesthetics.

	▲	crossroadsguy 5 days ago \| parent [-]
		> I can empathise with their joy because I, too, have found things which delight me. Yes, yes! Yes, dear JumpCrisscross I do believe in that. People singing really badly but happily is one of those things, people wearing clothes that looks absolutely horrible in them (as per me) but they are happy and love it and that makes me strangely actually happy. These are just few examples. But someone being Apple is not one of that and I am also respectful about it - I try tone down criticism, I try sarcasm, hell in most cases I try not to directly respond to such people. > I can articulate, respectfully, why I think their games are dumb. No, imho, you can't. When you call/consider something "dumb", it is just being called dumb - no matter how syrupy and respectful articulation that has. But that's just me. I won't call a sports dumb, but if you feel like it, you sure can with whatever articulation you prefer. You keep your sense of aesthetics and let me have mine. What I don't understand is: I did not even respond to you, and I was just criticising the company. I was not being abusive, and I was definitely not being disrespectful to you, but you still jumped into it and just started this argument. Why? Is that just pure ego? And now you can't let go? You went ahead and confronted me, and I replied back using that "nauseous" phrase because you took umbrage at something which was directed at a damn corporation and not at you in any way—unless criticism of Apple directly hurts you. Heck, I did not even mention you, and there is a reason for that—because I was not responding to you. I literally directed my disappointment towards the company—literally. Why, then? Do you still not recognise that you ought to just move on? And if that doesn't do it for you, then downvote, flag (that comment is already flagged), report, and then move on. Why do you have to pick an issue with me about it? Is it even worth it? Or do you want to have the last word? Is that it? Do you have something in mind that you want to hear?