“Thinnest” should be measured by the thickest slice for a given dimension.

I have an iPhone 11 which also has a camera bump and the experience of typing while the phone is on a flat surface is laughably annoying. For a company that prides itself on design aesthetics, it is honestly an embarrassing miss.

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shuckles 6 days ago | parent | next [-]

Genuinely curious: why do you often find yourself typing on the phone resting on a flat surface? I can’t think of a single time where that’s been the best way to handle my device.

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losvedir 5 days ago | parent | next [-]

I do this all the time, but I switched to iPhone only this year after a decade as a Nexus/Pixel user. I really wonder if this behavior comes from people who got accustomed to using phones with iOS vs Android, because it's certainly much more frustrating on iPhone.

Basically, whenever I sit down at my desk, I always have my phone sitting there, too. That's how I keep tabs on my personal life during work. But it works much better in Android:

* The Always On display came to Pixels a long time ago, so it was very useful to have your lock screen showing the date, time, and what sort of notifications you have.

* The notification management is just light years better in Android, so you don't have to even unlock your phone all the time to see what's going on.

* The Swiping keyboard was introduced a long time ago in Android, and is far superior in my experience, to the iPhone one, so it's pretty tolerable to type up quick things with the phone lying flat on the surface.

I'm actually kind of surprised that you don't interact with your phone on a desk or table. Do you just leave it in your pocket all day? Do you leave it on your desk, too, but just find it too cumbersome to deal with there and are constantly picking it up?

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cobbal 6 days ago | parent | prev | next [-]

I do this all the time, often when I'm at a desk or table. I had to get a bulky case for my iPhone just so it didn't unstably contact at only 2 points and rock with each tap.

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shuckles 6 days ago | parent [-]

Why don't you pick up the phone and type on it? That seems a lot more ergonomic.

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halper 6 days ago | parent | next [-]

I find myself using the phone on the desk, placed between my keyboard and monitor. I do this because I find having stuff in pockets less comfortable than not, so I put things on my desk. I sometimes want to communicate with my wife about domestic logistics and prefer typing short replies without lifting the phone every time. My work laptop is not logged into my iCloud account, so cannot reply there. Happens a few times a week.

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shuckles 6 days ago | parent [-]

So people would like Apple to make a radically different decision about camera sensor size or phone thickness so that those who want to hammer out a short message a couple times a week on their desk don’t have their phone wobble slightly or, even worse, need to pick up their phone to use it in hand?

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ulfw 5 days ago | parent [-]

And why use a shitty tiny screen keyboard to type if you're literally sitting at your desk with a proper keyboard in front of you?

	▲	shuckles 5 days ago \| parent [-]
		As an example, not everyone is able to use iMessage on a work computer.

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mrheosuper 6 days ago | parent | prev [-]

This has similar vibe to "You are holding it wrong"

	▲	shuckles 6 days ago \| parent [-]
		Which is an interesting comparison because most of the people were indeed unrealistically deathgripping their iPhone just to see the antenna bars drop.

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davidclark 5 days ago | parent | prev [-]

I’d do it more if it wasn’t an annoying UX! I have message previews on lock screen turned off. If I get a message when my phone is sitting next to my keyboard on my desk, I unlock it to view the message. Might type a quick reply.

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titusjohnson 5 days ago | parent | prev [-]

Apple doesn't advertise this as the intent, but until the Air I felt that the Phone+Case combo is the complete phone, as it is intended to be used. Add any of Apple's official cases, leather, silicone, whatever, and that's the official "thickness" of the phone. The cameras are recessed, the front display is recessed, the whole phone is wrapped in leather and further customized to your style.

Now the Air has a bump that is so big no case can hide it without also being unreasonably thicc, breaking the trend. I wonder what a case mfg could stuff into the awkward space on the peninsula where the camera is missing so the case provides a uniform surface when laying flat, even if that means a bigger bump on the top when cased. The phone would have a natural angle towards the user, that's kinda nice. Maybe a little bluetooth speaker setup so owners of the Air can more efficiently irritate their fellow passengers.