| ▲ | cassianoleal 6 days ago |
| > The iPhone Minis did not sell well. I’ve said this many times when this came up. The Mini didn’t fail because it was too small. It failed because it wasn’t small enough. I want a small phone that I can use single-handedly. A smaller screen is a tradeoff. The Mini had the disadvantage of a smaller screen plus the disadvantage of not being usable with a single hand. Because of that, I never bought one - if I’m going to be handicapped anyway, I’d rather have a larger screen. |
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| ▲ | nomel 6 days ago | parent | next [-] |
| > It failed because it wasn’t small enough. I've never seen a preference like this, in real life. Usually the thing closest to what you want is the preferred option. You're suggesting there's a hump in the preference curve, pushing people away from their preference, buying a larger phone than the smallest, when they "want" a smaller one. I have trouble believing this is true. Do you have any other example of this type of preference curve? I suppose the "uncanny valley" may be one, but that seems more understandable. |
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| ▲ | cassianoleal 6 days ago | parent | next [-] | | I'm not sure I'd call it a curve. Small phone vs. larger phone is a very simple tradeoffs calculation. Large phone: good screen, bad ergonomics
Small phone: small (thus worse) screen, best ergonomics I'm willing to pick the second option above. Unfortunately the Mini is somewhere in the middle: smaller screen than the larger phone - thus worse in that aspect -, combined with worse ergonomics than an actually small phone. It's the worst of both worlds. I don't know about other things, but ever since the iPhone 5 I've been wanting another model that I could use with a single hand. The Mini was never that, so why would I sacrifice a good feature (larger screen) for... nothing in return? | |
| ▲ | hombre_fatal 6 days ago | parent | prev [-] | | Also, increasingly shrinking the screen places increasing demands on apps and app developers to support those dimensions. It's not like enlarging the screen where you can at least generalize it by scaling everything up and it's still useable. With shrinking screens, you have to decide on tap target and content size minimums. It's quite an undertaking that needs to pay in the market. |
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| ▲ | Nition 6 days ago | parent | prev | next [-] |
| The iPhone Mini size isn't to bad, but I agree to some extent - I think perfect size phone for me would be about original iPhone SE size. It could have a 5" screen if you made it edge-to-edge (for ref the iPhone Mini has a 5.4" screen). |
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| ▲ | Swizec 6 days ago | parent | prev | next [-] |
| > The Mini didn’t fail because it was too small. It failed because it wasn’t small enough. The size is fine. But why they gotta handicap cameras? All I want is a mini-sized phone with max's camera. Is that so much to ask for? At this point I'm strongly considering ditching the iPhone and going Watch + Fujifilm Camera. Maybe keep an old phone at home to manage the watch. |
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| ▲ | mrheosuper 6 days ago | parent [-] | | > Is that so much to ask for? Actually, yes. The mini already has limited space to work with, they had already to shrink the MB, the battery. It would take much more effort to put a pro camera into it. Also those camera do heat up. Personally, i think the camera setup on ip13mini is fine. |
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| ▲ | vbezhenar 6 days ago | parent | prev | next [-] |
| Yep! iPhone 13 Mini: 5.4". iPhone 4S: 3'5". More than 1.5x as large. It's HUGE. It's not really mini. Give me 3" iPhone. That would be mini. |
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| ▲ | kelnos 6 days ago | parent | next [-] | | > iPhone 4S: 3'5" This is a very funny typo, considering the topic at hand. But yeah, I think I stopped being happy with phone sizes when they started going beyond 4" or so. It's hilarious to me that they can make a phone that's ~5.5" and call it "mini". I'm an Android guy, and had high hopes for https://smallandroidphone.com/, but the guy who was originally driving it is running his resurrected Pebble company now, and there's been basically no useful activity in the Discord for at least a couple years now, so I assume it's dead. | |
| ▲ | mrheosuper 6 days ago | parent | prev [-] | | I think the mini refer to physical dimension. |
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| ▲ | jajuuka 6 days ago | parent | prev [-] |
| You can take calls on an Apple Watch. Is that more the size you're looking for? |
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| ▲ | cassianoleal 6 days ago | parent | next [-] | | I don't have an Apple Watch, and I have no interest in getting one. In any case, the Apple Watch has a much smaller screen and absolutely horrendous ergonomics for everything but the simplest use cases. So, to answer your question: no. | |
| ▲ | mtalantikite 6 days ago | parent | prev [-] | | I'm just waiting for Apple Watch to not require an iPhone at all. I'd actually love to just ditch the phone altogether. |
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