| ▲ | stetrain 6 days ago |
| I’d rather have the world with nice cameras on my phone than the one where the back is flat for aesthetic design reasons. |
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| ▲ | dpkirchner 6 days ago | parent | next [-] |
| Give me an iphone with a nice camera and a flat back, fill the extra space with battery, and it probably becomes a day 1 purchase for me. |
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| ▲ | stetrain 6 days ago | parent [-] | | That would come close to doubling the thickness and weight of the phone. I’m sure some people would buy a 16mm thick, 400g phone but I doubt it’s the majority. | | |
| ▲ | dpkirchner 6 days ago | parent [-] | | I think we'd need to see some sales figures for cases. The case I use on my 13 Pro (casetify) adds enough size that the bump is barely an issue -- there is maybe a 1mm edge around the actual camera bump. It's very nearly the ideal. I don't know how common this size case is, though -- common enough that a mainstream case company sells it, I guess. I'll concede the point on the weight, although I bet it'd be more like 350g. | | |
| ▲ | stetrain 5 days ago | parent [-] | | I doubt Apple would add drop-friendly materials in such an expansion of the phone so most people would be putting a case on top of the iPhone Brick, making it even thicker and heavier. |
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| ▲ | ramesh31 6 days ago | parent | prev | next [-] |
| >I’d rather have the world with nice cameras on my phone than the one where the back is flat for aesthetic design reasons. The argument is that you shouldn't need to pick one or the other. They got us used to the bump because it is cheaper and simpler for them to build. The same with literally everything now. No more striving for excellence, it's just "what can we normalize and force people to put up with so we don't have to fix the problem". |
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| ▲ | musictubes 6 days ago | parent | next [-] | | Right, iPhone engineers are just lazy. That is a much better explanation than them having to juggle tradeoffs between camera performance, weight, and feel in the hand. It isn’t a problem. That’s why it isn’t “fixed.” | |
| ▲ | stetrain 5 days ago | parent | prev [-] | | The cheaper option for Apple would be to use smaller camera sensors with worse performance because that would reduce the depth needed for the sensor + lens. The cameras are getting bigger because a decent segment of the customers want better performing cameras on their phone. Either the whole phone would have to get thicker and heavier to accommodate, or you end up with a camera bump. And yes, some people would want that brick phone, but Apple seems to think it isn't a large market segment and the money they print from iPhone sales seems to point to them being decent at gauging that market. |
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| ▲ | macintux 6 days ago | parent | prev | next [-] |
| Yep. The cameras keep me upgrading every other year, otherwise I'd probably wait 3-4 years at least. |
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| ▲ | crooked-v 6 days ago | parent | prev [-] |
| Just take the existing phone and fill in the space. Voila, same camera quality, no bump. |
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