Subjective indeed. I don't mind the broad camera bump -- it's a good trade-off for getting the increased zoom, honestly. I'm not quite sure how I feel about the differently-colored ceramic bit on the back, though. But, on the plus side, not like that's the bit of the phone I look at.

Plus, the orange looks great. (In their promo shots. We've occasionally seen these look a lot less vivid once you see them in real life.)

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xela79 a day ago | parent [-]

>for getting the increased zoom you're getting 4x optical zoom (going down from 5x on 16 pro) and then 2x software zoom. Not bad, but not more optical zoom...

and that bump has again lens bumps, uneven, and the cases are really fugly and large

	▲	kemayo a day ago \| parent [-]
		It's not software zoom -- it's them doing binned pixels at 4x and then unbinning them and cropping down at 8x. Same thing they were doing on previous models for the 2x zoom, and now unlocked on the telephoto lens because of the resolution increase this year. It's a quality drop for sure, but it's never extrapolating pixels that weren't optically there as software zoom does.