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zoul 3 days ago

It’s arguably much easier to solve the UX issues when you are designing a centralized service, which is what Bluesky is.

ronsor 3 days ago | parent | next [-]

It is easier, but it's still possible to solve the UX issues with a decentralized service, in my opinion. What I think is the main issue is that these decentralized services are made by programmers with little regard or intuition for UX, and there is also a lack of funding to work on UX problems.

K0nserv 3 days ago | parent | prev | next [-]

I agree the UX challenge is much more challenging for decentralised services. I don't know enough about Bluesky to really comment on whether it is centralised or not.

Regardless, I think there's another thing that helped Bluesky: VC capital. In particular, to hire people to work on UX. It's a bit of a pet-peeve of mine, but I find it strange that designer don't contribute more to projects like Mastodon, which definitely need it. Even from the selfish angle of building a portfolio, helping solve Mastodon's UX challenges is much more impressive and realistic, than doing the millionth redesign of Gmail that will never get implemented.

estimator7292 3 days ago | parent [-]

It's a "distributed protocol" but there's really only a single server using it.

jauntywundrkind 3 days ago | parent | prev | next [-]

People are running every element of the Bluesky / AtProtocol stack independently. Bluesky could disappear and it would continue to function as is (albeit with lots of Bluesky data lost).

PDS's to hold users data, relays/firehoses to aggregate & forward traffic, AppViews to create composite views of likes, replies, etc, resolvers to lookup DIDs, clients to access the network. Each of these has independent implementations. BlueSky is already decentralized & already has viable credible exit. It's not decentralized, and indeed the scalability & accessibility of having firehose consumers has the greatest scale out decentralization characteristics we've seen anywhere short of BitTorrent.

fluoridation 3 days ago | parent [-]

I don't know why you're being downvoted. I tried it the other day and this is indeed how it works. I could even see my home traffic rise and fall over the course of the day in time with activity on the network.

jauntywundrkind 18 hours ago | parent [-]

It seems quite reliable that Bluesky gets down voted. Whether it's mastodon/Fediverse folk or right wing pro twitter philes or both, I dunno, but it sucks to have aggressors out there, dark forest freaks sniping away.

I try very hard to find the positive & to upvote things I don't fully agree with, if well argued. I wish the social network of HN could do more against adversarial zero-sim thinking, didn't have people who insist on draining.

hahajk 3 days ago | parent | prev [-]

Arguable indeed: plenty of email clients have great UI. Both RSS readers I used are better than Facebook.