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aurareturn 3 days ago

Side note: Why do people like Notion? I just can't get into it. It feels like every time I type, some autocomplete thing pops up and stops my typing. I just went back to the good old Notes app.

the_bear 3 days ago | parent | next [-]

As someone who switched from Dropbox Paper to Notion...

There's no question that Paper is a better pure writing experience. If you're viewing Notion as just a note-taking app and nothing else, I think you're misunderstanding what it's for.

For starters, it's way easier to organize stuff in Notion than Paper. This is less a feature of Notion, and more of a terrible limitation of Paper. Paper was stuck with the "files within folders" model. Just the fact that Notion lets you control what shows up in the navigation sidebar was a huge time saver for me. And being able to create pages within pages within pages (which is very different from having sibling documents inside a folder) made it much more flexible for organizing everything.

But the real power of Notion is when you start to treat it as a database builder rather than a note-taking tool. Yes, it's useful for taking notes, but those notes are about something, and with tools like Paper, Obsidian, etc., the thing is always living somewhere else.

With Notion, I was able to make a database of projects and another database of tasks which linked to those projects. Each developer on my team has a custom dashboard showing just the tasks that are assigned to them and currently in-progress. I have a totally different view showing all the projects going on right now. And then each of those tasks have a pretty good (I admit it's not great) note-taking feature. The notes are living within the actual object you're taking notes about, which is totally different from Paper.

I even use Notion for personal stuff. I have a Notion form that my wife and I use to enter things we need to buy next time we're at the store. And there's a view showing the things we need to buy from each separate store with checkboxes next to each one so it's easy to remove them when we're done. There's a separate database listing the movies we want to watch, with a view for all the ones we previously watched, and when. I have a database of cocktail recipes along with ingredient lists (so I can easily filter by ingredient), formulas to calculate different volumes based on how many drinks you're making, a rating system, etc.

Basically, if you look at Notion as a bucket of unstructured notes with a markdown editor, I agree, it's nothing special. But that's not what it really is.

mvdtnz 3 days ago | parent | prev | next [-]

I have tried several times - real genuine multi-week efforts - but I'm with you. It never worked for me. I can see potential in there but it's just too much, for too little in return.

cosmic_cheese 3 days ago | parent | prev | next [-]

Edit mode by default is what makes Notion grating for me. Way too easy to unintentionally modify org docs. It badly needs an edit mode toggle button.

austinl 3 days ago | parent [-]

It's possible to lock pages in Notion (from the ... menu on the page), which prevents editing without unlocking. Most org-level pages in our workspace are locked. People also typically lock project pages after they ship, for example.

echelon 3 days ago | parent | prev | next [-]

Notion feels like Python transpiled to React, brought to you by the Atlassian Jira team.

I do not enjoy it at all, and I hope Obsidian eats their lunch.

dtkav 3 days ago | parent | next [-]

I'm with you. I've been working on making Obsidian great for work with real-time collaboration, SSO, and the ability to have fully private document collaboration [0].

Performance aside, it's crazy that in the age of Claude Code people don't insist on having their docs local, private, and in markdown.

[0] https://relay.md

jitl 3 days ago | parent | prev [-]

So far the Obsidian folks don’t seem interested in our lunch ¯\_(ツ)_/¯

drdrey 3 days ago | parent | prev [-]

Easy sharing, easy to make pages public, good syntax highlighting, decent search.