With the iPhone 17 Air, which has many of the Pro features that typically accompany the Pro model to differentiate it from the base model, in addition to the base model getting the marquee features of the Pro models such as the 120Hz/Always On Display, the Pro is very poorly differentiated unless you really make use of the three cameras.

And there's no black color.

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kemayo 2 days ago | parent | next [-]

I'm one of those people who really likes the camera features, so there's no question about which one interests me. The Pro also has a battery life estimate that's 45% longer than the Air's, which is pretty important to me. Those two things combine to be a pretty big differentiator.

EDIT: actually, base Pro is only 22% more battery life. I was accidentally comparing it to the Pro Max. Still, important.

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cpuguy83 2 days ago | parent | prev | next [-]

I guess this time the pro really is for pros. The 120hz on the base model is great.

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mns 2 days ago | parent [-]

It’s a phone, who or what are those pros that use this in a pro way? And I’m saying this as a pro owner who only got it for the camera, which I use to take casual photos

	▲	glxxyz a day ago \| parent \| next [-]
		The same Prosumers who need AirPods Pro. I'm the same, thousands and thousands of casual photos of people, animals, flowers, landscapes with a 15 Pro Max. My DSLR sits unused in a case. It has to be the 17 Pro but I'm debating regular or Max.
	▲	cpuguy83 2 days ago \| parent \| prev \| next [-]
		The best camera is the one you have with you.
	▲	abletonlive 2 days ago \| parent \| prev [-]
		videographers are the only pro market left. obvious by the extra storage and additional camera features

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orionsbelt 2 days ago | parent | prev [-]

I’d get the Air but I really like the 0.5x camera. I’m disappointed at how the Pros keep getting heavier.