I'm still on an iPhone 11 and this might finally be the one to get me to upgrade. I don't need the "Pro" stuff, but the ProMotion was always frustratingly only associated with the Pro phones.

That said, I'm sort of frustrated with iOS overall, and sorely tempted to go back to Pixels, so I can't decide.

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danieldk 3 days ago | parent | next [-]

I have a Pixel 9 to check out where Android is standing and for GrapheneOS. Unfortunately Pixel OS still has pretty bad bugs all the time (oneUI is much more polished, but has other issues) and the Pixel 10 is really overpriced compared to the iPhone 17 (the Pixel 10 is more midrange than a flagship, even though it has a flagship price).

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mandeepj 3 days ago | parent | prev | next [-]

> tempted to go back to Pixels

I got my first Pixel (10 Pro XL); Only because their AI integration felt cool. My iPhone 11 Pro is still doing great overall, besides sluggishness here and there, and random Chrome crashes. I might consider upgrading to 17 now due to speed and camera upgrades. Honestly, it was not an exciting upgrade, just like their last 5.

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bitpush 3 days ago | parent | prev | next [-]

What kind of frustrations do you have on iOS. Since you've used Pixels, you probably are in a good position to compare.

	▲	losvedir 3 days ago \| parent [-]
		The notifications are the biggest one. iOS insists on this Banner -> Lock Screen -> Notification Center lifecycle, and it drives me crazy that notifications move from Lock Screen to Notification Center simply by unlocking the phone and then doesn't show Notification Center notifications at a glance. I've missed so many notifications that way, because I quickly unlocked my phone to deal with something, thereby dismissing my current Lock Screen notifications, and then failing to realize that I had some, because when I tap my screen to light it up they don't show up (you have to explicitly swipe up to reveal Notification Center). Beyond that, I really appreciated Android's little top bar that shows the app icons that had notifications so I could quickly see if it was Slack, email, etc, that I had. Finally, Android lets you opt out of "Marketing" notifications at an OS level, while iOS doesn't have that. Beyond that, I get frequent spam SMS's which are stupid. Android blocks all those. I have a Junk mail folder in email and hardly get email spam anymore. It feels like going back 20 years getting these random spam SMS's. Finally, "glanceability" doesn't seem as good with the iPhone. One silly little thing is that if I'm using my iPhone it's sometimes very hard to see the date! If you have notifications you have to swipe down quite a bit to reveal that.

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ihuman 3 days ago | parent | prev [-]

The air and the non-pro 17 have ProMotion

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losvedir 3 days ago | parent [-]

Right! That's why I said this might be the one to finally get me, since I'm not interested in Pro, other than ProMotion.

	▲	ihuman 3 days ago \| parent [-]
		Sorry, I misread your comment and thought you thought it was still exclusive to the pro