| ▲ | beoberha 6 days ago |
| Just do not understand the market for this one. The current size of phones is a solved problem. Nobody is asking for these things to be thinner. Most people use cases and are happy to add some thickness for battery life. Besides, the camera "plateau" makes it all futile. |
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| ▲ | goalieca 6 days ago | parent | next [-] |
| I would love a lighter phone. If I chase after kids at the park, the thing is banging around like a lead weight in my pockets. |
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| ▲ | schwarzrules 6 days ago | parent | next [-] | | Safe to assume those are your kids? | | | |
| ▲ | 2lup382_ 6 days ago | parent | prev | next [-] | | Why make a worse product for a problem that can be solved by carrying your phone a different way, or not having your phone on you for a moment? | | | |
| ▲ | bryanlarsen 6 days ago | parent | prev | next [-] | | This phone is not significantly lighter than previous gen. It's 146g vs 170g for the iPhone 16. | | |
| ▲ | r0fl 6 days ago | parent [-] | | That’s ~15% improvement That’s not nothing | | |
| ▲ | layer8 6 days ago | parent | next [-] | | Parent is wrong, the Air is 165g, not 146g. The previously lightest iPhone in production is the 16e at 167g, so almost no difference in weight between those two. | |
| ▲ | lynndotpy 6 days ago | parent | prev [-] | | The iPhone 12 Mini weighed 135g. Even more improvement :) | | |
| ▲ | seec 6 days ago | parent [-] | | The correct solution already existed but it wasn't expensive luxury fashion bullshit enough so it didn't sell and they'll pretend it never existed. |
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| ▲ | cenamus 6 days ago | parent | prev | next [-] | | Plastic would do more than less battery and more glass/ceramic though, right? | |
| ▲ | beoberha 6 days ago | parent | prev | next [-] | | As other comments have said, this isn't going to change that experience whatsoever | |
| ▲ | prmoustache 6 days ago | parent | prev [-] | | But 165gr is not really that light. | | |
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| ▲ | interpol_p 6 days ago | parent | prev | next [-] |
| I'm in the market for this I've been hoping for Apple to return to "thin" and it's nice that they're trying. I don't know whether I would buy this, but my current iPhone 14 Pro feels like a brick — thick stainless steel When I go for a run, it's uncomfortable to have in a pocket depending on what running clothes I am wearing. The heaviness makes it feel far more likely to break all the times I have dropped it (and I have dropped it many times, without a case) |
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| ▲ | mudkipdev 6 days ago | parent | prev | next [-] |
| Thinner phones are aesthetically pleasing and feel nice to hold. I can keep a battery pack nearby for emergencies |
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| ▲ | r0fl 6 days ago | parent | prev | next [-] |
| I’m asking for thinner What do you need battery life for? Aren’t you in your house or office or car near a charger most of the day? Do you spend 90% of your waking day in the middle of an open field far from any sort of charging capabilities? Why would I add more weight to a phone so I don’t have to put it on the charging MagSafe puck that is inches away from me at all times |
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| ▲ | seec 6 days ago | parent | next [-] | | Why would you want worse battery life just for shaving 2,31 mm and 12g. That's a ridiculous compromise, especially since weight is the more important factor and it's going to be barely noticeable in this case. Battery life isn't just about runtime it's also about the number of cyles you will be able to do before you have to deal with the bullshit that is iPhone battery replacement. There is objectively no good reason to prefer that compromise appart from the "feeling" factor, which is not a reason by definition. If get the battery compromise in the mini iPhones (even thought they could have just made them a bit thicker without changing much of the feel/functionality) because that's part of the deal with the form factor but going with a very large display only to make the phone thinner is beyond stupid. And it's more expensive when most of the specs sheet is equal or worse. | |
| ▲ | onlyrealcuzzo 6 days ago | parent | prev | next [-] | | I suspect you're the exception not the norm. I don't think the average person sits at home for 90% of the day doing nothing but using their phone and resting it on a magsafe. But I could be wrong! Either way, I'm pretty sure that's not the lifestyle Apple wants to market their phone to. But I could be wrong there, too! | | |
| ▲ | anonyfox 6 days ago | parent | next [-] | | also in the thinner camp here, and would gladly have accepted a way worse camera if they made the back uniformly thin actually. the closer we get to the "just a glass plate" thin design from the expanse the better :-) but yeah, everywhere around all day there is charging options easily even in many public transports here around europe, battery life is simply not a convern anymore for most people at all. the only time i even thin kis when I forgot recharging over night for some reason, but then in the office theres plenty of options to recharge too | |
| ▲ | r0fl 6 days ago | parent | prev | next [-] | | I’m not saying they are sitting at home most of the day Those who commute to and from work by car can charge in the car Those who work in an office can charge at the office Those who are at school can charge at school | | |
| ▲ | olyjohn 6 days ago | parent | next [-] | | So you want a thinner phone, but want to carry your charger with you everywhere? Or buy chargers and place them everywhere? | | |
| ▲ | r0fl 6 days ago | parent [-] | | Yes I have a charger in the car, downstairs in my house upstairs in my house in the office and have a portable anker charger if I fly or go backcountry skiing for the entire day A charger is like $50 Why would I carry around a brick in my pocket instead to save a few chargers How does that make any sense Also my iPhone 14 Pro lasts a full day 90% of my days on 1 charge I use my iPad or MacBook most of the day for work or am driving | | |
| ▲ | quantumspandex 6 days ago | parent [-] | | When you go travelling and do not want to carry around a backpack, and 1 day of heavy video recording, watching youtube on train plus 1 year of lithium battery degradation. That's when I want larger battery. |
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| ▲ | 2lup382_ 6 days ago | parent | prev [-] | | Their point still stands. A lot of us strive to NOT be in our cars, offices, or schools for extended periods. | | |
| ▲ | r0fl 6 days ago | parent [-] | | Where are those people instead? The vast majority of western society is in one of those settings most of the day Planes also have charging ports Trains have charging ports If you are at the gym you can have a MagSafe portable charger in your gym bag that charges your phone when you hit the showers Give me a few examples of who actually isn’t near a charger for 8 hours at a time A full time skier or surfer? I can’t think of the groups of people who need such long battery life | | |
| ▲ | forgotoldacc 6 days ago | parent | next [-] | | Most planes and trains in Asia don't have chargers. Maybe your country does. Your country is not the norm. Places that do have chargers are swarmed by people with tiny batteries desperately trying to charge up. And those charging spots charge about 1% every 15 minutes. As someone who's been all around the world and goes places every week, I'd take a battery that lasts all day and charges when I sleep over needing to stop and try to get another 5% of charge wherever I can and constantly being on the lookout for chargers. Also, people go into nature. We take hikes and walks in the park. It's nice to have a map there. It's also not easy to charge in the middle of the forest. And there are lots of people outside and needing good batteries. Nobody is staying home 90% of the time. | |
| ▲ | beoberha 6 days ago | parent | prev | next [-] | | Plugging your phone in is annoying. I want to avoid doing that as much as possible by only doing it when I go to bed. | | |
| ▲ | r0fl 6 days ago | parent [-] | | There are 100s of MagSafe and wireless charging options that work seamlessly It does not seem Apple cares about customers being too stubborn to not want to use any of the many options to juice up a phone mid day I guess those users can get the iPhone max and not have to charge all day. So you’ll be fine |
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| ▲ | SECProto 6 days ago | parent | prev | next [-] | | Aside from desiring a longer battery life, you'll likely be shocked to hear that some of us (non-iphone users) still use the Aux jack and the SD card slot too! | |
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| ▲ | r0fl 6 days ago | parent | prev [-] | | What do you think the lifestyle of a typical Apple user looks like? Seriously? Where are people consuming so much content that they need more than 10 hours of screen time per charge Just doom scrolling in the middle of a field for 600 straight minutes until their phones die? | | |
| ▲ | quantumspandex 6 days ago | parent [-] | | Watching on a movie on a 10 hour flight while not having to sit in awkward position for charging is one use case. |
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| ▲ | beoberha 6 days ago | parent | prev | next [-] | | It's all about the tail scenarios. Sure, my daily life is OK. But what about when traveling or spending a weekend day bopping around doing errands, getting a bite to eat, then going to a friend's house? I never want to think about charging my phone until I go to bed. | | |
| ▲ | seec 6 days ago | parent | next [-] | | Yes that's it. I'm dumbfounded by the people arguing about the common life. It's when you need the phone the most that battery life matters and it's usually when you are very far from your common routine/habits. When you are in holydays in a foreign city, constantly taking pictures, looking up stuff, using GPS to find places, this is when battery life is the most needed and relevant. Inconveniently, it's exactly the times where it will be hard to find a convenient power sources, exactly when you don't have time to wait in a single spot to let your phone charge and precisely when it's a pain in the ass to have to deal with external batteries and other half-assed inconvenient "solutions". It makes a huge difference. But Apple doesn't sell useful technology anymore, they are in the business of selling high end luxury fashion, that sometimes cosplay as technology, so whatever I guess... | |
| ▲ | r0fl 6 days ago | parent | prev [-] | | When you are doing all those things isn’t your phone in your pocket and therefore not draining battery? When travelling how? By car you have a cable charger or wireless charger in 99% of cars I’ve been in Planes have plugs
Trains have plugs
Ubers have plugs It seems like that is a once in a while occurrence for you In which case you’d be better off with a thin phone the vast majority of other days and pack a thin MagSafe charger for those once in a blue moon travel days and it would just be slightly thicker than a thick phone while the vast other days you’d have a thin phone | | |
| ▲ | justsomehnguy 6 days ago | parent [-] | | "I'm accustomed to being glued to a plug so everyone else on the planet should be too". No, thanks, I have up to 5 days of the runtime, I don't need a paperthin phone which I need to babysit. |
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| ▲ | forgotoldacc 6 days ago | parent | prev [-] | | I travel internationally pretty often. I also use my phone as a GPS when driving. Both cases have resulted in me having my battery at under 10% and desperately hoping I have enough power to get to where I need to go. And always having a charger or backup battery of some sort is just inconvenient. For the people who are at home 90% of the time, they're probably not using a phone the whole time. They'd be better served by a desktop. |
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| ▲ | kermatt 6 days ago | parent | prev | next [-] |
| Since they aren't going to offer the smaller profile it seems that at least some segment of people want, and they don't have any new ideas to innovate on, they have to release something in order to maintain "growth" - which we all know must happen on schedule. |
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| ▲ | nunez 6 days ago | parent | prev | next [-] |
| i hardly use my phone. it mostly sits in my hip pack. i'm extremely interested in the Air. the thinness means it takes up less space in there, which is very much appreciated. since they won't make another mini, this is the next best alternative. i'm also thrilled about having all-Apple silicon down to the cellular radios. more power-efficient and faster updates when improvements to cellular capabilities come out. very exciting. the small battery won't affect me much. web browsing is the most demanding workload on my phone, which is not a problem on this a19 soc unlike the 13 mini whose soc struggles to keep up. i also charge my phone every night before i go to sleep and these phones do a great job at not draining overnight. |
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| ▲ | pacomerh 6 days ago | parent | prev | next [-] |
| I'm actually curious about this one. Something that feels more seamless in my pocket, however like you mentioned, it would require for me to not use a case, which is something I might do. |
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| ▲ | matt-attack 6 days ago | parent | prev | next [-] |
| See my other comment. It’s a necessary feature of foldable iPhones. First you get them then, then you release a foldable phone. |
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| ▲ | seydor 6 days ago | parent | prev [-] |
| iphones are also a fashion accessory. lots of people will buy it for its distinctiveness |
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| ▲ | seanmcdirmid 6 days ago | parent | next [-] | | Not when you have to throw a case on it anyways. Maybe the cases won't be so bulky that this will actually be nice though. | |
| ▲ | seec 6 days ago | parent | prev [-] | | Bingo ! |
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