Right. I agree, but I think you are appealing to generosity when it works just as well if you appeal to greed and selfishness.

If I'm a parent who does not intend to take advantage of the program and therefore not to get any benefit directly, and I assume the program is done well and not rushed, I could reasonably expect:

- More parents able to be in the work force (immediately) - Better metrics for the young children entering. Especially for at risk. - Savings from less crime in the future. - Higher attainment of students when they enter the work force later. - Higher birth rate??? (probably not but this one is interesting regardless)

My understanding so far is that this leads to spending savings in addition to QOL of life improvements. And that's just for me. I want to live with less crime and less tax liability.

Asking for additional waivers imo just increases the cost in areas that will not as directly achieve the benefits of the program as stated. The only reason to ask for it is as a negotiation tactic.

I think the most important thing is to focus on the quality of the program and make sure the resources are there. And to make sure opportunities persist to prevent "fade out". I think that might have been the difference between Oklahoma's success in pre-k vs a program in Tennessee.

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Izikiel43 2 days ago | parent [-]

> Higher birth rate??? (probably not but this one is interesting regardless)

Why probably not? Childcare before primary school is a huge expense in the US, I think the largest for a healthy kid, around 24k$ per year where I live, so basically every other child is another 24k$ to the budget, or one parent not working. With this approach, having 2 or 3 children is more feasible, and the money saved from universal childcare could be in part invested for college or the child's future.

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hellojesus 2 days ago | parent [-]

Let's go with this (I pay a little more than $24k/yr/kid for care now).

Does the influx of gov mandated childcare centers reduce the annual expense for parents? If so, it does so at the cost to the current workers by reducing their salaries.

If not, now you've put every taxpayer on the hook for 24k+admin_expenses per child per year. That is an immediate blow to everyone except those benefiting more than their increased tax burden.

The benefit is lower wages for those competing against the new laborers and likely higher government tax inflows?

	▲	Izikiel43 2 days ago \| parent [-]
		> If not, now you've put every taxpayer on the hook for 24k+admin_expenses per child per year. That is an immediate blow to everyone except those benefiting more than their increased tax burden. Sure, you have that short term impact, but it seems NM society has chosen to take on the burden for this. Long term impact for this measure however is worth it, as the state children will be better educated, and will commit less crimes, at least that's what research says. So long term you will have more taxpayers, and maybe hopefully have to spend less in security.