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| ▲ | rsynnott 3 days ago | parent [-] | | At least on the US tariffs thing, congress can put Trump back in his box and revert to normalcy any time it wants to; the threat of stagflation might make it do that. The previous stagflation incident was more driven by outside forces. | | |
| ▲ | jghn 3 days ago | parent | next [-] | | Don't worry. Congress will take back this power as soon as a Dem is in office. | | |
| ▲ | pjmlp 3 days ago | parent | next [-] | | As they say in Austria, hope dies last, yet it dies as well. | | | |
| ▲ | BlackjackCF 2 days ago | parent | prev | next [-] | | If a Dem is ever back in office… | |
| ▲ | mbfg 3 days ago | parent | prev [-] | | Will there be another election? | | |
| ▲ | overfeed 3 days ago | parent | next [-] | | "Well, Doctor [Ben Franklin], what have we got, a republic or a monarchy?" "A republic, if you can keep it" The question I put to every individual American is: can you? | |
| ▲ | vlachen 3 days ago | parent | prev | next [-] | | I've honestly wondered this too. But we cannot obey in advance. If they're going to try and take it from us, then there should be a fight every step of the way. That means our cynical perspectives, as right as they may be, could lead us into a self-fulfilling prophecy. | | |
| ▲ | BlackjackCF 2 days ago | parent [-] | | I tell myself if there weren’t going to be elections or if the admin had a sure fire way to compromise them, they wouldn’t be trying so hard to push through redistricting in every single state there’s a Republican-controlled state house/senate. | | |
| ▲ | AbstractH24 2 days ago | parent [-] | | What if that is the way? Plenty of countries have elections that are neither free nor fair. More likely Election Day suddenly ceases to occur. |
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| ▲ | Integrape 3 days ago | parent | prev [-] | | Most likely, but with a predetermined outcome. |
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| ▲ | JumpCrisscross 3 days ago | parent | prev [-] | | > on the US tariffs thing, congress can put Trump back in his box and revert to normalcy any time it wants to We’ve already lost export market share. China, Russia and India have already begun building a trade bloc. FDI has already been trashed. We’re already in for a world of hurt. And personally, I’m eager to ensure it lands disproportionately on his voters and donors. | | |
| ▲ | throw0101d 3 days ago | parent | next [-] | | > We’ve already lost export market share. Probably more importantly, the US has lost trust. | |
| ▲ | cs702 3 days ago | parent | prev | next [-] | | > We’re already in for a world of hurt. I fear you're right, but hope you're not. Yes, this is wishful thinking on my part. I don't want to wish ill on anyone. | | | |
| ▲ | Hikikomori 3 days ago | parent | prev | next [-] | | Pretty sure America is going to keep shooting itself in its foot in confusion. | | | |
| ▲ | rsynnott 3 days ago | parent | prev | next [-] | | I think it's likely that if there was a rapid reversal, with Congress taking away the power to mess with tariffs and making it clear that it was permanently gone, there'd be some damage, but things would largely go back to normal. Not enough time has really passed for things to change _that_ much; many of the tariffs aren't _actually_ in place yet. | | |
| ▲ | marcosdumay 3 days ago | parent | next [-] | | > if there was a rapid reversal I have some bad news. It's already some 8 months too late for "rapid". > Not enough time has really passed for things to change _that_ much Here in Brazil we are in a mini economic boom because every single country is willing to pay a premium on anything that didn't come from the US. The EU is shutting up internal racist and protectionist dissidents (strong on their 2 largest economies) so that they can diversify from you. Most of the world is discussing independent payment systems... Nato countries are organizing to defend against the US and China and Russia are promising military protection to Latin America. I wonder if things changed that fast when WWI started, but it absolutely never changed that fast in my lifetime. | | |
| ▲ | rsynnott 3 days ago | parent [-] | | > from you I'm European, not American. I think that if given strong guarantees that Trump had been declawed, the EC would be happy enough to return to prior arrangements (though probably move ahead with the Mercosur deal and other trade treaties at an accelerated pace, granted). |
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| ▲ | ta1243 3 days ago | parent | prev | next [-] | | The world has seen how unreliable the US is. Its not even just the tarrifs, its the tarrifs applied at random, based on how happy the Don is. The world has seen the "checks and balances" don't exist, a populist leader can do whatever they want for any reason and has no accountability. The horse has bolted, you can't ctrl-z this. | | |
| ▲ | rsynnott 3 days ago | parent [-] | | In this case, there are laws which he claims allow him to do what he's doing (some disagree, and that's moving through the courts, though with the current Supreme Court who knows). Those laws _can be revoked_, though. The meme that congress is powerless against him is not really entirely correct. |
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| ▲ | sdenton4 3 days ago | parent | prev [-] | | The supereme court seems quite happy to do whatever the president wants through the one-two punch of fake emergency declarations and shadow docket decisions... |
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| ▲ | CamperBob2 3 days ago | parent | prev [-] | | And personally, I’m eager to ensure it lands disproportionately on his voters and donors. That would certainly be nice, but we're all in the boat together. There is no safe haven when idiots are in charge. But you see, dogs and cats were being eaten, and the other lady cackled too much... |
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