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scubbo 4 days ago

No, the people who made it so that there was no way for humans to enjoy those reasonable comforts without contributing to pollution.

> Are you posting these comments from a computer powered by solar panels?

That's precisely the point. It shouldn't be individual responsibility to improve our infrastructure (though, in point of fact, I actually _am_ posting using solar power). A good society is one in which everyone _is_ using solar power _without realizing it_, because those responsible for providing power to society do so responsibly.

ajmurmann 3 days ago | parent [-]

I am not sure about you, but me and many other commenters here, live in Democracies and in places where capitalism offers choice. Yet, most people weren't voting for the green parties. Oversized vehicles are very popular. Even people who voice their concerns about climate change have complained to me about gas prices. When I tell people they should celebrate high gas prices I get treated like I am insane. We've been voting literally and with our wallets for the status quo. The vast majority of citizens is not without blame.

anon84873628 3 days ago | parent [-]

Yeah, it's the definition of a game theory prisoner's dilemma type situation. Which normally governments are best positioned to solve. But this one requires coordination between politicians over long timescales, and across sovereign governments altogether.

So it really does require worldwide grassroots activism, which unfortunately is very slow and incremental. I'm not hopeful... Our ape brains are just not built for what it takes.