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noarchy 3 days ago

One can argue that we're only seeing the beginning of the destruction. The economic policies of this administration could take years to be fully realized. That also means that, unfortunately, it will take years to repair the damage.

KingOfCoders 3 days ago | parent | next [-]

I don't think the trust in the US can be repaired for a very long time.

joshdavham 3 days ago | parent | next [-]

Yup. Even if Americans vote out the current administration, there’s no guarantee they won’t vote in another administration like this again. They’ve already done it twice.

unethical_ban 3 days ago | parent | next [-]

We need, at the very least, to revoke "emergency" powers of the presidency, and we need to reinforce that Congressional action overrides executive whim.

The administrative state is a good thing, not a bad thing, and people like Steve Bannon are cancers on American success.

Ideally, we would also ban gerrymandering, revoke unlimited anonymous political spending, and implement ranked choice voting.

wnc3141 3 days ago | parent [-]

I think the contradiction required for this is 1) we need a strong, power concentrated leader to decisively correct the ship and prevent future abuses. 2) we then need the leader to voluntarily limit their powers.

throw0101d 3 days ago | parent | prev | next [-]

> Yup. Even if Americans vote out the current administration […]

Reminder: Trump was re-elected. The first time could be considered an aberration, but the second time?

bluGill 3 days ago | parent | prev [-]

There is nothing unusual about Americans here. Every democracy has the same worry, and always has. Every change in party has brought in instability, going right back to the founding of the country. Sometimes worse than others. Trump isn't that much different from some of the stupid things presidents were doing in the 1800s...

privatelypublic 3 days ago | parent | prev [-]

If ever.

chimeracoder 3 days ago | parent | prev | next [-]

> That also means that, unfortunately, it will take years to repair the damage.

If you're old enough to be reading this comment today, it's unlikely that the full damage will be repaired in your lifetime.

tavavex 3 days ago | parent [-]

As someone who is just starting their proper adult life, the feeling of seeing the past's most bleak, extreme, "irrational" depression fuel resurface as today's level-headed, sensible predictions for the future is difficult to describe.

riehwvfbk 3 days ago | parent | prev [-]

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tavavex 3 days ago | parent | next [-]

Has either the US or the EU ever promised not to retaliate against their enemy states or something? Actually, has any nation or national organization in the world ever promised that? You know, not to engage in war or any retaliation for anything? Just be arbitrarily 'fair'? You're creating standards that simply never existed. When war is on the table, all bets are off, it has always been that way.

Once you do what Russia did, no one should be required to honor anything with you. Countries are bound by laws, especially when you talk about Western countries, but there's always ways to get around to do what's needed if it's important enough - such as in military conflicts. If anything, the legal frameworks that tie their hands often prevented them from going even further, which would've been far better.

It also comes off incredibly disingenuous how lightly you're treating Russia here. You're pretending as if they just had an oopsie, a momentary lapse of judgement, a minor accidental misstep, and the heartless hypocrite West unfairly punished them for it by arbitrarily declaring them 'evil'. Like anyone else is scared because they might just stumble and that'll cause them to get on the West's bad side.

Unless you can think of other countries that are itching to start the new bloodiest, most cruel invasion of a sovereign nation on EU's doorstep, no one's situation mirrors Russia's. If they wanted the EU to sit idle, perhaps they shouldn't have invaded.

geoka9 3 days ago | parent [-]

Not to mention that most (all?) of those assets haven't been seized. They were frozen (although the interest earned on them was seized by diverting it to Ukraine in some cases).

wredcoll 3 days ago | parent | prev [-]

This downvote isn't a punishment, it's a way to help decrease the visibility of lies and missinformation.

Russia literally launched an aggressive war of conquest. Any response that doesn't involve literal soldiers occupying russian cities is an extremely minor one.