> "your sacrifice is necessary for the future of the environment" which is a luxury belief.

The cost of food, water, energy and other things are going up *because* of climate change. What kinda "luxury belief" is that?

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FirmwareBurner 3 days ago | parent [-]

Source? Because EU pollutes less now than before, but my groceries are even more expensive so your point is moot. So why should I accept to be spit-roasted like this with no return on my sacrifices?

Maybe greedy corporate profiteering is the real culprit here squeezing people and not people using the AC or driving to work?

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goodpoint 3 days ago | parent [-]

There is absolutely overwhelming evidence that climate change is impacting agriculture.

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FirmwareBurner 3 days ago | parent [-]

You're dodging my question. I asked why hasn't our economic sacrifice to save the environment resulted in a reduction in grocery prices, if environmental damage is what's causing them to go up? We reduced the economic damage but prices are still going up. So what gives? Is it environmentalism or corporate greed?

	▲	two_handfuls 2 days ago \| parent \| next [-]
		Has CO2 returned to pre-industrial levels? Has the ice shelf re-frozen? How about permafrost? We are not yet at the point where things are good again yet. We are just reducing further damage at this point.
	▲	cycomanic 3 days ago \| parent \| prev [-]
		Because there are lags in the system? Because we are not doing enough? Do you always expect immediate feedback on everything you do? If that's the case I guess you never invest in anything because that's by definition a bet that it will make things better (or less worse) in the future. So your proposal is to further delay making anyone pay for changes, because previous generations profited? So at the end of the chain (which will likely not be very long anymore) some generation will be completely screwed.