Giving how much subsidies farmers get, and they still whine all the fucking time, I would gladly nationalize them all.

Corn ethanal? Gone. Crazy EU stuff? Gone.

dukeyukey 4 days ago | parent | next [-]

Collectivised agriculture has gone badly enough often enough that I'm wouldn't risk trying it.

	▲	Ericson2314 3 days ago \| parent \| next [-]
		I don't think the Soviet and Chinese examples are very relevant, because dealing with a bunch of peasents is extraordinary different from dealing with an agricultural sector that is already industrialized. Because the massive subsidies we already have the incentive problems too, so it's not like that would be a new can of worms either.
	▲	juuular 4 days ago \| parent \| prev [-]
		This seems to be working well and is resilient www.youtube.com/watch?v=cDnenjIdnnE

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AngryData 3 days ago | parent | prev | next [-]

Subsidies are certainly mismanaged in numerous ways but they are the only alternative to the granary system to maintain reliable and stable food production. We used the granary system for thousands of years across the world and while it kind of worked, it also resulted in numerous famines across every culture.

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andruby 4 days ago | parent | prev [-]

Just trying to learn more. What "Crazy EU stuff" are being farmed at the moment?