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philipallstar 4 days ago

England's population has been rising far faster than it would naturally rise due to immigration. This means giant sums of money need to be borrowed to fund capital-intensive projects including new energy and water sources. They haven't been done enough on the water side.

It's incredibly expensive to have the population increase this fast.

bjoli 4 days ago | parent | next [-]

Always the immigrants.

Weird that they are to blame, even though water abstraction has been trending downwards for close to 30 year.

philipallstar 4 days ago | parent | next [-]

It's not always the immigrants. That comment's just as intelligent as actually believing it's always the immigrants. If the population were growing rapidly due to everyone having larger families, that would be the reason, but it's not.

If you add millions of people over the last 25 years (say) then of course water will become much scarcer. And it's not like, say, food supply, which scales up and down relatively nicely with demand. Additional water provision is a massive capital investment each time to provide a load more provision in a big chunk.

alt227 4 days ago | parent | next [-]

> If you add millions of people over the last 25 years (say) then of course water will become much scarcer.

Not if the profits from selling the water are reinvested into the network to increase the capacity to fit the need.

Are you saying that its fine that billions of pounds of UK water profits money have gone into overseas investors pockets, because we shouldnt have let so many immigrants into the country and so there would still be enough water services for all if we hadn't?

philipallstar 3 days ago | parent [-]

> Are you saying that its fine that billions of pounds of UK water profits money have gone into overseas investors pockets, because we shouldnt have let so many immigrants into the country and so there would still be enough water services for all if we hadn't?

I'm not saying it's fine, no.

bjoli 4 days ago | parent | prev [-]

It was irony. England and great Britain is not using more water. Despite population growth, water use is trending slightly downwards the last 30 years.

fredley 4 days ago | parent | prev [-]

> faster than it would naturally

Implying migration is 'unnatural'. Which it isn't, humans have migrated as long as they've existed, and without migration the population in the UK would be trending down, which is a very bad problem to deal with.

philipallstar 4 days ago | parent | next [-]

> Implying migration is 'unnatural'.

This is just silly. Natural population growth is a term. Being the connotation police is entirely unnecessary.

p1dda 4 days ago | parent | prev [-]

It's not a very bad problem, you are just repeating the official narrative

fredley 4 days ago | parent | prev [-]

[citation needed]

Population growth in the UK is roughly in line with other developed countries. The past few years have been a bit choppy due to global events like the pandemic, but the UK is not an outlier in its population growth.

intalentive 4 days ago | parent [-]

Population growth in other developed countries is also driven by immigration.