Europe has ceded development of all tech to China and the US, I don’t see why AI should be any different.

hirako2000 6 days ago | parent | next [-]

And Europe is now waking up to that. The people have access to YouTube and caught up on what's been going in European industries. Entering a multi polar world they are at least now informed.

Edit: related, France had many of these commissions to report on the dismantling of it's industrial fabric: https://youtu.be/1OH5PqO_O1Q

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palata 6 days ago | parent | prev | next [-]

Because it did doesn't mean it still wants to.

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Ringz 6 days ago | parent | prev | next [-]

When you talk about China, you may have confused development with production.

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portaouflop 6 days ago | parent | prev [-]

Has it though? Last time I checked EU still is the worlds main producer of semiconductor lithography - which is arguably the basis for all tech worldwide

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Certhas 6 days ago | parent | next [-]

It hasn't. Multipolar world, expertise exists everywhere.

But user-facing innovation is coming from the US. No EU Apple, Google, Amazon. And infrastructure R&D in China is unprecedented. They are reaping a multi-decadal investment in higher education.

The US has infinite VC money, a hypercompetitive environment that rewards first-movers, an appetite for letting these first-movers reap the benefits of their monopoly, and a political class that aligns with business interests. China has a coherent STEM education story and protections/state support for key industries. The EU sits at an awkward inbetween spot. It's raison d'etre is enabling free markets, and consequently it doesn't allow national champions and strong industrial politics. But it also doesn't have the same hypercompetitive culture as the US, and it's political class is less aligned with business interests.

The thing is, I don't really want the EU to compete with China and the US on these issues. If you have one system that makes people happy, but where eggs cost 1.20€ and iPhones have a smaller screen resolution, and one where people are miserable but eggs cost 1.10€ and iPhones have a higher screen resolution, then in a free market the system that makes people miserable wins.

I believe there are hard questions, no easy answers, and the EU, being a consensus mechanism for national states that hold the power, is not the best institutional set-up to tackle them.

	▲	mgaunard 6 days ago \| parent \| next [-]
		The EU is mostly a hotspot for leisure, tourism, food, fashion. A lot of people enjoy living there, meaning there is necessarily some local talent that doesn't get captured by the global markets.
	▲	pegasus 6 days ago \| parent \| prev [-]
		"a political class that aligns with business interests" - or is it the other way around, more recently? - Big tech firms bowing to Trump and all that.

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mahrain 6 days ago | parent | prev [-]

China, Japan and USA all have their chip machines, just ASML is making the most advanced ones.