| ▲ | KingOfCoders 4 days ago |
| As a German, what amazes me, it seems like many people in England are on a water flatrate, as far as I understand it. No one (?) in Germany is. |
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| ▲ | fredley 4 days ago | parent | next [-] |
| Most water companies in the UK will not allow you to start a new flat rate tarriff though (and will definitely be applying pressure to those on a flat rate to get a meter). So if you move house chances are you will get a meter installed straight away if there isn't one already. |
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| ▲ | jaccola 4 days ago | parent | next [-] | | Water company came to my old flat, "impossible" to install a meter. My water bill halved because of their assessment. Of course, I had lived there for 5 years, had been trying to get a visit for 1 year and hadn't changed my water usage. Still no rebate was offered! | |
| ▲ | zipy124 4 days ago | parent | prev [-] | | I've never stayed in a place in london with a water meter, and I've lived in 5 places over 8 years. In addition we've tried to get one fitted multiple times, as it was becoming mandatory. None of the places I've lived in were able to have one fitted, as in large buildings fitting a meter for each flat is simply not possible, especially in old council flats. |
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| ▲ | olalonde 4 days ago | parent | prev | next [-] |
| In most of Quebec, water is not billed nor metered. It's considered as a "public good" and paid for through property taxes. That does lead to overuse and waste though. |
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| ▲ | SoftTalker 4 days ago | parent [-] | | Chicago also, at least historically. On the shore of Lake Michigan, there is no lack of fresh water. It was billed however. You paid a flat rate for water service, but it was unmetered. I'm not sure how much this is still the case. |
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| ▲ | IshKebab 4 days ago | parent | prev | next [-] |
| It's a legacy from the past. 60% of households have watered meter now and you can't chose to get flat rate water. |
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| ▲ | louthy 4 days ago | parent | prev | next [-] |
| As a Brit, yes that’s true, I’ve never had a metered water connection. |
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| ▲ | kawsper 4 days ago | parent | prev | next [-] |
| That surprised me too. Flatrate is the default, but you can get a metered water connection installed if you want, and it is often cheaper than the flatrate. |
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| ▲ | bbrks 4 days ago | parent [-] | | It's not the default. You cannot buy a new house today without being on a meter. That is the default. It's just our housing stock being so old and decrepit, where nobody can be bothered updating anything even if it's provided for free by the utility companies, that the majority of houses simply do not have a water meter! There's a general sentiment that smart meters and metered water will make costs skyrocket or somehow hold you ransom to abrupt and unfair price changes, as if that somehow wasn't the case today... | | |
| ▲ | secondcoming 4 days ago | parent [-] | | Except in Scotland where your water charge is added to your council tax and so there are no water meters. I pay £190 per year for unlimited water. | | |
| ▲ | arethuza 4 days ago | parent [-] | | Don't you also pay for waste water? My waste water charge here in Fife is quite a bit more than the water charge. | | |
| ▲ | secondcoming 4 days ago | parent [-] | | Don't think so, it's not mentioned separately on my CT bill at least. However I rent in a new build block of flats so maybe it doesn't apply to me, or is included in rent. | | |
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| ▲ | padjo 4 days ago | parent | prev [-] |
| Wait until you hear about Ireland where we installed metres but ended up not using them and instead everyone gets as much water as they want for free. |