Aside from Music, these are all negative features that are valuable only because YouTube is so obnoxious.

I'm in vehement agreement with parent to be honest. "We'll stop spitting in your soup if you pay us extra" isn't a nice value proposition.

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tonyhart7 5 days ago | parent | next [-]

"We'll stop spitting in your soup if you pay us extra" isn't a nice value proposition

so you want people to freely watch videos without paying anything or watching ads ???

how this works then, creator need to be paid, bandwidth need to be paid, infrastructure is not cheap

it is a nice value proposition, if its not somebody would already make a better alternative that not require those 2 (without paying and without ads)

the fact there is not then its not possible

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makeitdouble 5 days ago | parent [-]

To stay in the metaphor, wouldn't see some other business model that would allow them to provide the soup to people who order without having to threaten to spit into it ?

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tonyhart7 5 days ago | parent [-]

lol, there is no spit on it

it is the soup, people free to eat the soup or not

the fact that people always focusing on youtube flaw but never recommend alternative is simply saying that they are the best

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makeitdouble 5 days ago | parent [-]

That's the hallmark of a monopoly: people can complain about it as much as they want, it won't have any material difference.

	▲	tonyhart7 4 days ago \| parent [-]
		"That's the hallmark of a monopoly" but there is no monopoly ???? are you saying that you simply cant use another website/platform ???? this is ridiculous if its android/ios then I can understand why its monopoly. but we have bazillion other video/streaming website Youtube are simply the best, deal with it

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SchemaLoad 5 days ago | parent | prev | next [-]

It's not a particularly crazy idea that free users get a lesser experience. I'm perfectly happy to pay for youtube since it provides by far the best content and the price is reasonable.

The fact that people can get all of that for free with some minor limitations is fairly generous.

	▲	godshatter 3 days ago \| parent \| next [-]
		> It's not a particularly crazy idea that free users get a lesser experience. Agreed, but it's the difference between a restaurant serving a mid-tier soup for cheaper versus giving customers a really good soup that the chef spit's in to encourage people to pay for the more expensive version of it.
	▲	makeitdouble 5 days ago \| parent \| prev [-]
		> fairly generous. Is Google "generous" ?

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Magmalgebra 5 days ago | parent | prev [-]

It feels bad as a consumer, but the alternative is usually worse.

The "stop spitting in your soup if you pay us extra" is really efficient market segmentation. If you don't do that you need to find actual value props that separate the market in just the right way to generate the financials that allow the product to keep going as is. 9 times out of 10 the result is that failing PMs totally fuck up the product and everyone loses.

It's the SSO kerfuffle in a different package - terrible, but the right choice surprisingly often.