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| ▲ | arunc 4 days ago | parent [-] | | It was proposed by Walter and denied by Stroustroup, probably to save C++. Karma hits back and he is trying to save C++ from Rust. | | |
| ▲ | WalterBright 4 days ago | parent | next [-] | | D is the result of lack of interest by the C++ committee, and I had little interest in spending literally years trying to get useful things adopted into C++. Ironically, over the years, C++ has adopted many features popularized by D. (like contracts!) C++ should adopt a few more D features, like https://www.digitalmars.com/articles/C-biggest-mistake.html, compile time expression evaluation (C++ did it wrong), forward references, and modules that work. C++ should also deprecate the preprocessor, a stone-age kludge that has long been obsolete. | | |
| ▲ | motorest 3 days ago | parent [-] | | > D is the result of lack of interest by the C++ committee, and I had little interest in spending literally years trying to get useful things adopted into C++. I think you are leaving out the fact that your comment applies to the post-C++98/pre-C++11 hiatus. Once C++11 was released, the truth of the matter is that whatever steam D managed to build up, it fizzed out. I'm also not sure if it's accurate to frame the problem with C++0x as picking up features from D. As I recall, D's selling point was that it was scrambling to provide the features covered by C++0x but users weren't forced to wait for a standard to be published to be able to use them. Once they could, there was no longer any compelling reason to bother with D anymore. | | |
| ▲ | WalterBright 3 days ago | parent [-] | | C++ is still trying to catch up with: - compile time function execution - modules - no preprocessor - memory safe arrays - preprocessor replacement - ranges and so on. | | |
| ▲ | motorest 3 days ago | parent | next [-] | | > C++ is still trying to catch up with (...) C++ modules are indeed a mess, but you are fooling yourself if you believe that the preprocessor of all things is a compelling reason to switch. In fact, I think you unwittingly proved my point on how interest in D fizzed out the moment C++11 was released. | | |
| ▲ | WalterBright 2 days ago | parent [-] | | > if you believe that the preprocessor of all things is a compelling reason to switch The preprocessor is an unhygienic, ugly mess. Just look at the system .h files, which should be a showcase on how to use it correctly. I stand by my assessment of it. |
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| ▲ | 72deluxe 3 days ago | parent | prev [-] | | As I am oblivious to D, may I ask if there are suitable GUI toolkits for it, or bindings? I typically use wxWidgets in C++ land. | | |
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| ▲ | pjmlp 4 days ago | parent | prev | next [-] | | People keep forgetting C++ design is driven by 300+ people, and the features that get into the language go to elections, that they have to win. Stroustoup has one vote, not everything he advocates for wins votes, including having a saner C++ (Remember the Vasa paper). | |
| ▲ | motorest 4 days ago | parent | prev [-] | | > It was proposed by Walter and denied by Stroustroup, probably to save C++. Citation needed. For starters, where is the paper? | | |
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