I've lived in the UK for over 15 years now and I still can't get over people's general allergy for using indicators. And I know the test and training specifically tell you that you must use indicators when changing lanes and turning, but if I had a penny for every time I see someone on the motorway changing lanes without indicating I'd make a very good middle class salary from that alone.

But yes, other than this people do generally drive really safely. I especially like how people mostly keep to the 30mph limit in towns(but then again, people get literally offended when you say you keep to the 20mph limit, like you're some kind of idiot for doing so).

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Lio 5 days ago | parent | next [-]

Those not indicating are bad drivers. However, I'm not sure if this is what you mean but when changing lanes on a British Motorway you only need to indicate when pulling out not when pulling in.

Sometimes it can be helpful to do so when pulling in too but it's not a legal requirement since undertaking (except in slow moving traffic) is also ilegal.

	▲	gambiting 5 days ago \| parent [-]
		"changing lanes on a British Motorway you only need to indicate when pulling out not when pulling in." I've heard multiple people say this in the past, including driving instructors(!!!!!) and it's just not true. Highway Code article 133 clearly says: "Lane discipline 133 If you need to change lane, first use your mirrors and if necessary take a quick sideways glance to make sure you will not force another road user to change course or speed. When it is safe to do so, signal to indicate your intentions to other road users and when clear, move over". You always have to indicate when changing lanes. There is no distinction made between pulling in or out by the highway code, I honestly think people made it up in their heads and they keep to it - maybe because you don't need to indicate back when overtaking on a single lane road, but that doesn't apply on multi-lane carriageways. However the point seems to be mostly academic as in my experience most people don't bother indicating at all on a motorway, whether pulling in or out. "since undertaking (except in slow moving traffic) is also ilegal." Highway code doesn't mention anything about slow moving traffic, just "similar speeds" - so it's perfectly legal to undertake a vehicle going 68mph when you're going 70mph, if the traffic is heavy: "Rule 268 Do not overtake on the left or move to a lane on your left to overtake. In congested conditions, where adjacent lanes of traffic are moving at similar speeds, traffic in left-hand lanes may sometimes be moving faster than traffic to the right. In these conditions you may keep up with the traffic in your lane even if this means passing traffic in the lane to your right. Do not weave in and out of lanes to overtake."

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andrepd 5 days ago | parent | prev [-]

30mph is an unsafe speed for towns or anywhere where cars coexist with pedestrians or bikes.

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GJim 4 days ago | parent | next [-]

The "experiment" in Wales has proven what a disaster reducing this speed was.

Urban area limits are now being raised back to 30 mph.

	▲	gambiting 4 days ago \| parent [-]
		What are you talking about - the Wales experiment as you called it has clearly shown it's a good idea - I wish it was implemented everywhere now and the numbers clearly support it. It's only being raised back up to 30 in areas where 1) the data suggests no improvement(which was always the intention of the change) 2) the issue became political and the limits are raised no matter what the data says Overall for Wales the improvement in safety has been undeniable though and it's hard to disagree with it.

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gambiting 5 days ago | parent | prev [-]

100% agreed.