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mindcrime 5 days ago

> People constantly assert that LLMs don't think in some magic way that humans do think,

It doesn't matter anyway. The marquee sign reads "Artificial Intelligence" not "Artificial Human Being". As long as AI displays intelligent behavior, it's "intelligent" in the relevant context. There's no basis for demanding that the mechanism be the same as what humans do.

And of course it should go without saying that Artificial Intelligence exists on a continuum (just like human intelligence as far as that goes) and that we're not "there yet" as far as reaching the extreme high end of the continuum.

hermitcrab 4 days ago | parent [-]

Aircraft don't fly like birds, submarines don't swim like fish and AIs aren't going to think like a human.

chpatrick 4 days ago | parent | next [-]

Do you need to "think like a human" to think? Is it only thinking if you do it with a meat brain?

hermitcrab 4 days ago | parent [-]

Is the substrate important? If you made an accurate model of a human brain in software, in silicon or using water pipes and valves, would it be able to tnink? Would it be conscious? I have no idea.

chpatrick 4 days ago | parent [-]

Me neither but that's why I don't like arguments that say LLM's can't do X because of their substrate, as if that was self-evident. It's like the aliens saying surely humans can't think because they're made of meat.

utyop22 4 days ago | parent | prev [-]

Do these comparisons actually make sense though?

Aircraft and submarines belong to a different category and of the same category, than AI.

hermitcrab 4 days ago | parent [-]

I am just trying to make the point that the machines that we make tend to end up rather different to their natural analogues. The effective ones anyway. Ornithopters were not successful. And I suspect that articifial intelligences will end up very different to human intelligence.

utyop22 4 days ago | parent [-]

Okay... but an airplane in essence is modelling the shape of a bird. Where do you think the inspiration for the shape of a plane came from? lmao. come on.

Humans are not all that original, we take what exists in nature and mangle it in some way to produce a thing.

The same thing will eventually happen with AI - not in our lifetime though.

hermitcrab 4 days ago | parent [-]

Ornithopters model the shape of a bird and movement of a bird. Modern aircraft don't. What bird does a Boeing 767 look like?