You're just saying things you want to be true, "Asian software" doesn't suck and Europe didn't lose.

Just because "all" software companies have American entities doesn't mean you "won", that's just what happens when a jurisdiction let's companies do anything even if it's detrimental to society as a whole.

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csomar 2 days ago | parent [-]

Most (all?) of the tech stack depends on American companies starting from Operating Systems, to Servers, to SaaS, to Cloud, to Software running on most businesses, etc. What you are saying is meaningless when they got you by the ba&&s.

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carlhjerpe 2 days ago | parent [-]

Yes American companies have been good at capitalizing on IT and a lot of companies are "by the balls" of Microsoft, but much infra is opensource. Linux runs the world.

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stefanfisk 2 days ago | parent | next [-]

Linus moved to the US two decades ago, so it's been quite a while since Linux could be considered "European".

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carlhjerpe 2 days ago | parent [-]

I think it should be considered what it is, global with profits centered in the US.

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ghaff 2 days ago | parent [-]

Certainly, the are a fair number of contributors in Europe and both SUSE and Canonical are European based. I still think it's hard not to think of Linux as fairly US-centric however if only because of how many large US companies use (and contribute to) Linux.

	▲	carlhjerpe 2 days ago \| parent [-]
		Valid, I've noticed that a lot of non-US contributors work for American corporations too. It's a bit ideological for me ("OSS is global") so I think I might gaslight myself into believing it's more equal than it is. I'm happy wherever the contributions come from either way but I will never call Linux US-centric! Lennart Poettering(German, works for American corps) comes to mind as an example, though not a kernel developer.

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csomar a day ago | parent | prev [-]

Most people do not interface with Linux on a bare metal, self-assembled server. They use AWS, GCP and Azure. There is Alibaba Cloud but it is so bad, I can't even properly signup/signin.

> Linux runs the world.

The world infra runs on top of Linux. Linux is open source. Most of this infra is American.

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carlhjerpe a day ago | parent [-]

Is AWS Stockholm American? It's a bit of a stretch, it's profits surely go to America and the control plane is American.

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csomar a day ago | parent [-]

Another way to think of it: AWS Stockholm is a pipeline to navigate Sweden regulation/laws/banking to funnel money out of there. The core is still American/controlled in America. Otherwise, people would have just hosted in a Swedish hosting platform.

	▲	carlhjerpe a day ago \| parent [-]
		Swedish power, Swedish backbone, Taiwanese chips and boards, and an American control plane. But yes you're right, it's an American service offering that I for cost reasons and I avoid big cloud like the plague. USA surely knows how to charge for their services and lock customers in