> So what does the solution look like?

There are no solutions, only trade-offs. And the point is that not everything needs to be, nor ought to be, automated. And package managers are a good point of this.

And yes, a language with an ill-defined concept of a package in the language itself is a problem of the language, but the package managers are not making it any better.

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Octoth0rpe 4 days ago | parent [-]

> And yes, a language with an ill-defined concept of a package in the language itself is a problem of the language, but the package managers are not making it any better.

If a language does not provide a definition of a package but a package manager _does_, then I would say that that package manager did make that aspect of the problem better.

	▲	gingerBill 4 days ago \| parent \| next [-]
		It makes it worse in my opinion, not better. Because it leads to the problem that other package managers don't agree on what a package is, and it might even lead to the need for an external build system to co-ordinate all of it too. It's a never-ending problem, and is now even worse.
	▲	dismalaf 4 days ago \| parent \| prev [-]
		And if the language does provide the definition?