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meesles 5 days ago

> Use these tools as a massive force multiplier of your own skills.

I've felt this learning just this week - it's taken me having to create a small project with 10 clear repetitions, messily made from AI input. But then the magic is making 'consolidation' tasks where you can just guide it into unifying markup, styles/JS, whatever you may have on your hands.

I think it was less obvious to me in my day job because in a startup with a lack of strong coding conventions, it's harder to apply these pattern-matching requests since there are fewer patterns. I can imagine in a strict, mature codebase this would be way more effective.

rmoriz 5 days ago | parent [-]

In times of Rust and Typescript (just examples) coding standards are explicit. It‘s not optional anymore. All my vibe coding projects are using CI with tests including style and type checks. The agent makes mistakes but it sees the failing tests and fixes it. If you vibe code like we did Perl and PHP in 1999 you‘re gonna have a bad time.

baq 5 days ago | parent [-]

In a startup, especially early, the only thing that isn't optional is shipping. You can fix any and all issues later, first you have to ensure there is a 'later'. (That's not to say you shouldn't do it at all, but definitely focus on the business before the tech.)

rmoriz 5 days ago | parent [-]

I‘ve been with a couple of startups that shipped and not a single one was cutting corners in this area anymore. Last time I saw this was probably around 2005-2008.

bcrosby95 5 days ago | parent [-]

Cutting corners here is one of the worst decisions you can make. Especially in an environment where you don't know your end product and you're likely to rework your code over and over and over again.

Piling shit on top of shit only pays off on very short time scales - like a month or two. Because once you revisit that shit code all your time savings are out the window. If you have to revisit it more than once you probably slowed yourself down already.

rmoriz 5 days ago | parent [-]

And you can add an AI code agent (Copilot, Opencode, Claude) to the workflow just to deal with failing tests, automatically create PRs to fix the issues. It may boost the productivity a lot doing housekeeping while coding manually.