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andsoitis 5 days ago

> I would say that 25 to 28 degrees celsius are normal temperatures for computers.

An ideal ambient (room) temperature for running a computer is 15-25 celcius (60-77 Fahrenheit)

Source: https://www.techtarget.com/searchdatacenter/definition/ambie...

▲ trueismywork 5 days ago | parent | next [-]

And that is an impossibility in most of the world today and it will be even more like that going forward.

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nl 5 days ago | parent [-]

Much of the world (for better or worse) uses airconditioning in places they commonly use desktop computers.

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em-bee 5 days ago | parent | next [-]

no they don't. in some countries in europe (maybe in all of them?), installing airconditioning is frowned upon because it is considered a waste of energy. if you want government subsidies for replacing your heating system with a more energy efficient one you are not allowed to have airconditioning. and in the rest of the world only people/countries well of, that don't consider their energy usage, do it. airconditioning is luxury.

using to much airconditioning is also not comfortable. i used to live in singapore. we used to joke that singapore has two seasons: indoors and outdoors. because the airconditioning is powered so high that you had to bring jacket to wear inside. i'd frequently freeze after entering a building. i don't know why they do it, because it doesn't make sense. when i did turn on airconditioning at home i'd go barely below 30. just a few degrees cooler than the outside so it feels more comfortable without making the transition to hard.

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qwerpy 4 days ago | parent | next [-]

> installing airconditioning is frowned upon

Seattle was like this a couple of decades ago when I moved there. People sneered at me when I talked about having air conditioning installed at my house. Having moved from a warmer part of the country, I ignored their smug comments and did it anyway. The next few years I basked in the comfort of my climate-controlled home while my coworkers complained about not being able to sleep due to the heat.

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trueismywork 4 days ago | parent | prev [-]

Europe not having some kind of air conditioning (even if heat pump based) is stupidity in my opinion. It lowers productivity

	▲	krs_ 4 days ago \| parent [-]
		It should be noted that most office building will have some form of air conditioning, as well as many other indoor public spaces. It's just in people's homes it's uncommon.

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trueismywork 4 days ago | parent | prev [-]

No they dont. They don't have the money. I remember my childhood when gaming in summer holidays in India, my PC would run at full tilt because my room was at 36C (and outside was 48C).

▲ imtringued 5 days ago | parent | prev | next [-]

So you're saying that if you go even 3 degrees Celsius over that temperature range you should expect your CPU to fry itself? Even when the CPU throttled itself to exactly 100°C?

	▲	andsoitis 5 days ago \| parent [-]
		> So you're saying that if you go even 3 degrees Celsius over that temperature range you should expect your CPU to fry itself? Even when the CPU throttled itself to exactly 100°C? It is actually 2.9999, precisely.

▲ johnisgood 5 days ago | parent | prev [-]

  coretemp-isa-0000
  Adapter: ISA adapter
  Package id 0:  +40.0°C  (high = +80.0°C, crit = +100.0°C)
  Core 0:        +38.0°C  (high = +80.0°C, crit = +100.0°C)
  Core 1:        +39.0°C  (high = +80.0°C, crit = +100.0°C)

Are they saying this is bad? This Intel CPU has been at it for over a decade. There was a fan issue for half a year and would go up to 80 C for... half a year. Still works perfectly fine but it is outdated, it lacks instruction sets that I need, and it has two cores only, and 1 thread per core.

Maybe today's CPUs would not be able to handle it, I am not sure. One would expect these things to only improve, but seems like this is not the case.

Edit: I misread it, oops! Disregard this comment.

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Rohansi 5 days ago | parent [-]

That is your CPU temperature, not ambient (room) temperature.

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johnisgood 5 days ago | parent [-]

Oh, I misread. My bad!

	▲	johnisgood 3 days ago \| parent [-]
		Just to add, I moved into a house where it is almost always between 27-30 C. It is AWFULLY hot for me. :( Sadly it will not go below this during winter either because they will start up the heating and it cannot be turned off.