There's no way "30 min by car" is a thing unless you bulldoze the entirety of Central London and replace it with freeways and parking lots. It's always a red herring.

Cars are simply not viable past a certain density. It's silly (misleading at worst) to take a distance (say 40km) and a speed (say 80kph) and just claim the journey by car takes 30mins, ignoring everything else!

Trains + metro + bikes are the only way to make the journey you describe viable (and comfortable and fast).

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j1elo 4 days ago | parent | next [-]

That's based on real world times in the european capital I live in. Also the original point was for a city like Oslo.

	▲	LadyCailin 3 days ago \| parent [-]
		I can confirm. I live on the outskirts of Oslo, and it is substantially faster for me to drive in the city center, Rather than take public transit. Cheaper too! Although parking is paid for by my job, if it wasn’t, public transit would be cheaper, depending on how long I parked.

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