It is very true and worthwhile to point out that the only company deploying L4 at scale is using LIDAR. And that company is not Tesla

The mental gymnastics Tesla fanboys use to explain this away are incredible.

	▲	happyPersonR 5 days ago \| parent [-]
		The Tesla social media team actively used to post positive spin on comment threads. It wouldn’t surprise me if they have LLM doing this now.