I have a lease end coming up and the Bolt/EUV are on my radar, but one significant advantage that Leafs have is that the lower trims can have their head unit swapped out for a nice Pioneer or Sony unit from Crutchfield, just like is possible with many ICE vehicles, which can get you a nicer infotainment experience (including wireless CarPlay/AA) that isn’t encrusted with rent-seeking gunk.

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seanmcdirmid 5 days ago | parent | next [-]

> just like is possible with many ICE vehicles

Many older ICE vehicles, you mean? EVs aren't really special in their use of custom car-bound head units. BMW XDrive is the same XDrive they have in their EVs as they have in their ICEs. Mandatory backup cams is only going to accelerate that.

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cosmic_cheese 5 days ago | parent [-]

It’s an unfortunate trend. I’m not sure mandatory backup cameras is really a driving cause, though — the bulk of third party head units have backup cam support out of the box and some even let you add a 360° overhead parking view if you’re willing to drill some holes and wire cameras.

The biggest reason for non-modular infotainment is to push people into subscription services.

	▲	seanmcdirmid 4 days ago \| parent [-]
		The cars hade to come from the factory with backup cams now, then that’s going to open the floodgates to other features where a custom head unit would be useful, since they need one anyways. Unfortunately none of those features are done in a standard way where pioneer or alpine can plug into the car’s bus and somehow manipulate it.

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jdeibele 4 days ago | parent | prev | next [-]

I drive a 2023 Bolt EUV and it has wireless CarPlay. My wife's 2024 Equinox EV has Android Automotive and no CarPlay. We don't have Android phones so I don't know how well an Android phone would work with Android Automotive.

I've been tempted to get a larger car but the Bolt is so much more fun to drive compared to the Equinox.

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01100011 4 days ago | parent | prev | next [-]

IIRC my 2019 Bolt had android auto but required the USB cable be plugged-in. My aftermarket, China-special head unit in the old car I've been driving lately has wireless Android Auto and while it's cool, it's still effectively wired due to how quickly it drains my Pixel 8 Pro's battery.

	▲	cosmic_cheese 4 days ago \| parent [-]
		Interesting. CarPlay wireless has very little impact on battery life in my experience, with both a 14 Pro Max and 16 Pro Max.

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turtlebits 4 days ago | parent | prev [-]

The Bolt EV supports Android Auto and Carplay, you can get a ~$30 USB dongle to give you wireless.