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goldchainposse 5 days ago

I understand how the US and EU have different electrical outlets, voltages and frequencies. The systems developed independently, standardized on compatible versions locally, and standardizing globally would be very expensive and almost impossible to do safely.

I don't understand how North America and Europe settled on different EV charging plugs.

Symbiote 4 days ago | parent | next [-]

Three-phase power is ubiquitous in Europe, my oven and stove are connected to it yet this is a small apartment. The slightly larger plug (to fit the extra pins) and extra cables are worthwhile for the higher power and balanced consumption.

darknavi 4 days ago | parent | prev | next [-]

CCS1/2 (DC Fast charging) and J1772 (AC "Slow" charging) share a port on most cars. That is, the CCS plug uses the entire plug and the J1772 part uses just the upper portion of the plug.

The AC "slow" charging in the US only needs to support two-phase power (residential power is two phase) and the EU (and others?) generally need to support three-phase power.

NACS is just better in North America (versus CCS1) because it's smaller and much easier to physically handle, but the AC "slow" charging pinning only supports two phase power.

herbst 5 days ago | parent | prev [-]

I don't know how it is in the US but there is no one standard charging port here in Europe.

ddalex 5 days ago | parent [-]

CCS2 is mandatory in europe

herbst 5 days ago | parent [-]

I don't drive a RV, I just charge my campers batteries sometimes. I have 3 different connector cables from the common connectors I found in Switzerland, France and Italy only.

masklinn 4 days ago | parent [-]

Are you talking about shore power? Because that has nothing to do with EV charging.

herbst 4 days ago | parent [-]

No.

ranguna 4 days ago | parent [-]

Then what are you talking about?

We are talking about electric vehicle charging, as in, cars that have electric motors and are powered by a battery.

herbst 4 days ago | parent [-]

In my area according to Google maps I see J1772, CCS1, CCS2, Typ 2, CHAdeMO, NACS next to schuko (landline) (in Austria right now).

As said not all stations provide all the standards, not every station has CCS2, hence why I carry multiple cable adapters. That's all I know really. As said I don't drive an electric car.

ranguna 2 days ago | parent | next [-]

It's still unclear what you are talking about. Either way, the point still stands, all legal charging station in the EU have CCS cables.

Symbiote 3 days ago | parent | prev | next [-]

Google Maps is misleading, as two of those are not approved in Europe, and two others are synonyms.

foxglacier 4 days ago | parent | prev [-]

I think you confused everyone by saying RV instead of EV previously.