I continue to have contempt for the "I'm not contributing to the enrichment of our newest and most powerful technology" gang. I do not accept the assertion that my AI should have any less access to the internet that we all pay for than I do.

If guys like this have their way, AI will remain stupid and limited and we will all be worse off for it.

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thoroughburro 5 days ago | parent | next [-]

I do not accept the assertion that the content I host is anything other than my own to serve to whom I wish. Get your hands off my belongings, freeloader.

Or, shorter: I hold you in as much contempt as you hold me.

> If guys like this have their way, AI will remain stupid and limited

AI doesn’t have a right to my stuff just because it’ll suck without it.

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tqwhite 4 days ago | parent [-]

You put it on the public internet, the public has the right to see it, take whatever lessons it can and do what it wants. It's the intrinsic nature of the internet.

It has never been ok to say, "[this kind of person] is not allowed to look at my page nor, "you can only look at my page with [this web browser or other tool]".

	▲	thoroughburro 3 days ago \| parent [-]
		> It has never been ok to say, "[this kind of person] is not allowed to look at my page nor, "you can only look at my page with [this web browser or other tool]". What? Sure it has. “This page best viewed in Internet Explorer.” “JavaScript required.” “Members only.” “Aggressive scrapers blocked.” “Random country blocked just for having higher proportion undesirable traffic.” All bog standard for decades.

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nkrisc 5 days ago | parent | prev | next [-]

> I continue to have contempt for the "I'm not contributing to the enrichment of our newest and most powerful technology" gang.

Ok, when do I get paid for my contribution?

	▲	tqwhite 4 days ago \| parent [-]
		If you have posted public web pages then the fact of your being able to be seen by people using the public network infrastructure is your payment.

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IncreasePosts 5 days ago | parent | prev | next [-]

Okay, what percent of content is poison like this? Way less than 1%? If AI is so smart maybe it can figure out what content in a training set is jibberish and what isn't.

Anyway, a big problem people have isn't "AI bad", it's "AI crawlers bad", because they eat up a huge chunk of your bandwidth by behaving badly for content you intend to serve to humans.

	▲	tqwhite 4 days ago \| parent [-]
		The amount of bandwidth they use is trivial. That's not an issue. I don't have any idea if the poisoning idea is real or not. I express contempt for those that think it's a good idea. It's not just my support for AI learning from the public internet, there are also people who will see it. It's unethical.

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tqwhite 4 days ago | parent | prev [-]

If you put stuff outside, in public, then it is correct for people to observe and learn from it. You should be happy that your web presence is enriching our culture. If not, you're selfish and I think you're bad.

If you don't want it to contribute to the public use, make a login page. I see no reason for you to get the advantage of a public access without contributing to the community.