First, the quote from the parent post is "people bring up the most extreme, outlier situations (500 mile trips) as a cudgel against EVs"

There are plenty of people, myself included, who routinely take trips in excess of 500 miles.

Next weekend I will be visiting family 1100 miles away - I will drive, stay 2 weeks, and then drive back.

I can fill up in about 15 minutes and drive 350 to 400 miles, so, over 1200 miles my total "recharge" time is 45 minutes.

The Leaf gets ~212 minutes and then takes 35 minutes (minimum) to charge to 80%.

To go 1100 miles will take at least 5 stops at 35 minutes each = 165 minutes; realistically, longer because you have to find your charging stations and drive to them; plus that only takes you to 80% instead of 100% (which I get when I fill up with gas) which reduces range. So I am being generous to the Leaf in my estimates.

So for 7.5 hours of actual drive time, I have to add in 2 hours (165 minutes minus 45 = 120 minutes) additional because of the EV. That's adding about 25% more time on the trip.

Lots of people regularly drive 500 miles. The question is, how many drive 500 miles without 15 to 30 minutes of stopping? That I suspect is the small number. Doing so is illegal for commercial drivers in many jurisdictions, for darn good reasons. It's downright dangerous.

It seems 90% of people in the US travel for the holidays[0], in europe its around 70% [1], pretty easily searchable. The person you were replying to didn't use the word "routinely", you yourself added that word. It's bad form. If I'm doing 4-5 round trips over 500+ miles a year with a family I for one don't want an added hour, hour half to the trip each way every time. It's a legitimate thing to look at when deciding to buy a car.

[0] https://newsroom.aaa.com/2024/12/year-end-forecast/

[1] https://www.tomtom.com/newsroom/explainers-and-insights/how-...

Without stopping.