This is the thing that ICE people need to internalise.

You THINK you're driving long distances every day and you THINK charging is a massive hassle where you have to drive to a Charging Site and wait for the car to charge for HOURS.

When in reality you plug in at home and have a full battery every morning.

And when the infrastructure is properly built (yay Finland), you can get a week's charge when you're getting groceries as the shop has multiple 100kW chargers along with a fleet of Level 2 (22kW) chargers.

The only times I need to actively think about charging are over 200-250km day trips (my old Ioniq EV has a WLTP of 300km on a warm summer day). And even then the kids an dogs need a bathroom break anyway and I need to walk around a bit to freshen up. 20-30 minutes gets us 100-150km of charge (old car, slow charging) and we're off again.

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ponector 5 days ago | parent | next [-]

>> When in reality you plug in at home and have a full battery every morning

Right, but I should buy a house with a garage first.

>> charge when you're getting groceries as the shop has multiple 100kW

Unless you do groceries in unusual time, those chargers are occupied. Will you wait in line then?

	▲	theshrike79 5 days ago \| parent [-]
		You just need an outlet that is close to the car, but it’s mostly an American issue. We get 230V/16A from a bog standard outlet, three phase is triple that.

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jimnotgym 5 days ago | parent | prev [-]

I had a leaf on demonstration for 24 hours. I was impressed with it. I drove the 50 miles to work and back, and put it on slow charge knowing I had 16 hours until I needed it. No problem. When I came to drive it in the morning it hadn't charged. It was actually a problem with the plug in the garage, it must have gone off a few minutes after I plugged it in. Now what? Wait 16 more hours?

A couple of weeks later I went on holiday. I wouldn't be able to charge where I was stopping, and there were no chargers within 15 miles. I kept my diesel.

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mschuster91 5 days ago | parent [-]

> It was actually a problem with the plug in the garage, it must have gone off a few minutes after I plugged it in. Now what? Wait 16 more hours?

So what, that's something you find out once that your electric installation is shoddy enough to most likely be a fire risk (because the charger plug has a thermal protection built in!), fix it and then you won't have that problem again. And as the Leaf should have 150 miles worth of range, you still should have way more than enough range on the battery to do two days worth of commute even if you suddenly find out the trickle charge didn't work.

	▲	jimnotgym 5 days ago \| parent [-]
		50 miles each way...150 miles range turned into 10 miles left. So no.