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throwaway0223 4 days ago

If you believe in fully remote work, and think that companies should not pay double to have employees in HCOL locations: why would you hire in a crazily expensive market like the US in the first place?

If everyone is remote, why not put your employees in Costa Rica? Or São Paulo? Colombia? Heck, even Canada is cheaper than many places in the US.

And we're only talking about timezone-aligned markets. You can also consider Poland, or India, and now you can hire a lot more resources for the same cost. Sure, it will be less efficient, collaboration tax and all, but 2.5X is quite a difference.

The one thing holding US-based companies from going all-in offshore is the belief that in-person relationships still matter. They would rather pay the extra COL mark up than save 40-70% for a remote employee.

To be clear: the jobs are going to other markets; this is not a either or situation. But at least hybrid RTO has as a dampening effect, and protects the internal job market. We should be celebrating folks like Amazon, not complaining that they don't get it.

In the past we had more demand than supply, which kept salaries stable (read: high). Now there's more supply than demand, and the main thing holding salaries stable is that employers still want warm bodies walking through their doors every day. Remove that, and you get a race to the bottom.

evidencetamper 4 days ago | parent | next [-]

This argument keeps popping up as if every engineer was exactly the same, which is simply not true.

High quality talent is expensive, hard to recruit, hard to keep. High salary is one of many perks a company offers to capture high quality talent. A work visa to live in a first world country is another one.

cooloo 4 days ago | parent | prev | next [-]

You can or you can simply open site on India, Poland ... Which what most companies do anyway. I think the challenge is most likely a cultural one.

GenerocUsername 4 days ago | parent | prev | next [-]

Hey if we can hire them there instead of importing then here I might be onboard for this... Oh wait, most companies are doing both regardless

mrheosuper 4 days ago | parent | prev [-]

>You can also consider Poland, or India, and now you can hire a lot more resources for the same cost.

You are onto something here.