▲ | energy123 7 days ago | |||||||
> loneliness is a perceptual phenomenon that represents a paradoxical component; it is not mitigated through proximity to others It might be better described as alienation. Then we can fit it into Hannah Arendt's theory of fascism being caused by alienation. In the modern world, that alienation is accelerated by social media and cost of living for those without assets, who pay the cost of inflation without benefiting from asset price inflation. Everything is more hostile, more sectarian, and you also can't even afford anything, and also you are a bad person because you are a creepy 45 year old white man with a small dick, and you better stop looking at me like that. Is it any surprise? | ||||||||
▲ | xenobeb 7 days ago | parent | next [-] | |||||||
I do wonder if this is really the same type of alienation that Arendt refers to. I can understand how if you are afraid the neighbor is going to be an informant, you stop interacting. Public discourse breaks down and ideology takes hold. This seems quite different to me than the type of alienation we are talking about in 2025 from online interactions. I am not sure alienation is really the right word in terms of isolation from a group. If anything the problems from social media are from too much interaction and too much political discourse. I would say that is completely opposite to what Arendt was talking about. I think it is the way "boredom" has quite a different meaning today than in 1990. While you can still be bored in 2025, I don't feel boredom the same way as in 1990 when none of my friends answered the phone and there was nothing on tv. 2025 boredom is more the lack of hyper stimulation and hyper novelty as opposed to the 1990 version of going through your "junk drawer" to find something again novel because you can't think of anything else to do. I can't even remember the last time I had junk drawer to even go through. | ||||||||
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▲ | cassepipe 7 days ago | parent | prev | next [-] | |||||||
To me, alienation is philosopher's toy and they like to put what they don't like behind that word. It's been mostly used by Marxist philosophers rediscovering the "young Marx" to deal with the fact that the workers actually didn't seem that interested in a socialist revolution anymore (they have false consciousness !) I am not saying this to invalidate what you are saying but would you care to explain how you think the problem described by parent (richer societies allow for more alone time thus loneliness) is better described by Arendt's concept of alienation ? > In the modern world [...] Is it any surprise? To me you are just describing a poverty and ideological tribalism but that still doesn't tell me what Arendt can do for us here | ||||||||
▲ | andrepd 7 days ago | parent | prev [-] | |||||||
Bearded German philosopher was right once again. | ||||||||
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