Thank you for sharing this interview link! I didn’t know that Étoilé was inspired by Alan Kay’s STEPS project. It makes a lot of sense. It would have been really cool to see a desktop environment that pushed Alan Kay’s ideas further.

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realA12l 6 days ago | parent [-]

Chisnall has stated several times over on Lobsters that he's thinking of basing is future project on Arcan (https://arcan-fe.com/). It's a very interesting project.

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jfb 6 days ago | parent [-]

This thing about Arcan is that the writing about it is almost deliberately incomprehensible.

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LargoLasskhyfv 4 days ago | parent [-]

There are yt-videos embedded on the site. They may be helpful.

Otherwise give https://lobste.rs/s/w3zkxx/lobsters_interview_with_bjorn_sta... a try?

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jfb 4 days ago | parent [-]

Yes, it's good! And I have a lot of sympathy for what I perceive to be Stahl's goals, and indeed, his methods. But I think I need an intercessor or interpreter to his prose style. This is probably a me problem and not a him problem, to be maximally fair.

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realA12l 3 days ago | parent [-]

Björn's writing style is intentional. He tries to make it understandable for people that have deeper understanding of the subject, but to keep out the people that doesn't know enough. It's primarily to convey what Arcan is to the people that can do something with Arcan, but to avoid attention that will ultimately lead to flame wars.

Ståhl _hates_ attention, both from being a quite private individual to having problem with weirdos showing up at his apartment when some of his videos have gone viral here on HN. (Everyone's home addresses are public here in Sweden)

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		Oh man, that's awful.