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saberience 7 days ago

I know it's supposed to be fancy and cool looking but this sort of website design where you have to scroll and then the whole screen animates really bothers me. It actually gives me a headache to try and follow it versus normal scrolling behaviour and text.

As soon as I start scrolling down and I can't scroll normally and images and text start flying around I feel a disturbing feeling in my head and lose concentration and almost get brain-fog from the distracting content moving around.

Please provide more accessible versions of websites if you're going to override the default behavior. I couldn't make it 10 seconds before having to close the tab.

rorads 7 days ago | parent | next [-]

I usually agree with this, but I make an exception for Pudding because they consistently do this and it’s kind of their brand to have really immersive JS art/media. But I have the benefit of having read and enjoyed their stuff before.

It’s probably a false distinction, but it feels different to a SaaS product offering page, or product launch, where I need to get information, compared to someone using JS to create art.

This whole article could be summarised in about 300 words, but I would have had very little emotional or conceptual enjoyment of it.

kayge 7 days ago | parent [-]

Not quite as immersive as their deep dive into the Visual History of Rickrolling [0] but still a neat and interesting project.

[0] https://pudding.cool/2021/07/rickrolling/

archon810 6 days ago | parent [-]

God damnit, I don't know what I expected.

palata 7 days ago | parent | prev | next [-]

Would be nice if we could disable JavaScript and just get access to the text.

I also dislike this style, plus it lags on my computer. I scrolled all the way down but all I got was that it is a story of how it's not so bad to talk to strangers.

ndileas 7 days ago | parent | next [-]

Would be nice if you would stop expecting the whole web to have stopped developing at your preferred point in time.

palata 7 days ago | parent [-]

I don't have anything nice to answer to this ;-).

NiloCK 7 days ago | parent | prev [-]

I don't know if I'm missing the mark here, but:

you can in fact disable JavaScript in your browser. In Firefox, go to `about:config` and set `javascript.enabled` to false.

Warning: lots of sites will break.

ThePowerOfFuet 7 days ago | parent | next [-]

This site is nonfunctional without JS.

palata 7 days ago | parent | prev [-]

I think you are missing my point, yeah :-). It would be nice to be able to access the content of this very website we are talking about right here without JavaScript.

8organicbits 7 days ago | parent | prev | next [-]

I'll promote prefers-reduced-motion here, which I believe is the standards compliant way of signaling you want this behavior. Unfortunately, I haven't noticed many sites supporting it.

https://developer.mozilla.org/en-US/docs/Web/CSS/@media/pref...

1970-01-01 7 days ago | parent | prev | next [-]

It's art. They did it because they wanted it to be seen exactly this way. Accessibility was not the goal.

dolebirchwood 7 days ago | parent [-]

That's cool, but not all art is good. A lot of it sucks, regardless of the technical acumen involved in its production. This is one of those cases.

mcluck 7 days ago | parent [-]

This is exactly the kind of negativity that only appears on the internet and that this study sort of shined a light on. Would you really tell this person to their face that their art sucks just because it isn't good for you?

nonethewiser 7 days ago | parent | prev | next [-]

I had NO IDEA that it scrolled until reading this comment. I was wondering wtf the page was about.

qnpnp 7 days ago | parent | prev | next [-]

Sometimes this is indeed merely "fancy" and vacuous, but other times it is a meaningful and more engaging way to present the content. I feel like this is an example of the latter.

Even if you're not a fan and would have done it differently, it seems a bit hard to understand what could be so bothersome that you have to close it in 10s...

saberience 7 days ago | parent | next [-]

Well, it literally makes me feel almost nauseous, i.e. I felt physically unwell from the images and text moving around the screen.

Note: this doesnt happen from a regular video, or normal scrolling text behaviour. Just sites like this that combine overriding the scroll bar with moving text and images.

llm_nerd 7 days ago | parent | prev [-]

I often like the use of advanced media. The NYT and Washington Post have done some amazing advanced media that fully exploits the richness possible with the web.

Not so sure about this one, though. Like others, I was more annoyed with the constant scrolling to get tiny niblets of information and didn't even make it through. It makes it feel like work and the mechanisms completely overwhelms the message.

Also weird that it's hogging CPU even when you're sitting on a completely static portion of the page.

thfuran 7 days ago | parent | prev | next [-]

Yeah, that website was horrid. I don’t know why someone would opt for a scrolljacking-based animation, let alone why they’d intersperse text boxes zooming around.

RataNova 7 days ago | parent | prev | next [-]

It would be nice if more of these projects offered a "static" mode

gowld 7 days ago | parent | prev | next [-]

This one is especially worse because it's an incoherent mess that doesn't make any sense, not trying to show you anything relevant to the content.

itsTyrion 6 days ago | parent | prev | next [-]

it's even worse on mobile for me: any time there's a full screen animation, the site lags to a crawl – as in, 500ms+ lag spikes and aingle-digit FPS

puika 7 days ago | parent | prev | next [-]

Maybe I'm using my phone wrong, but the mobile experience was barbaric and stopped reading

polotics 7 days ago | parent | prev [-]

Yes I definitely was interested but the form-over-function of this presentation just got me to drop out and not finish reading. I ended up passing the link to a LLM and asking "summarize this for me"...