> Granted, I only end up at google on other people's computers or on some fresh install where I haven't configured search yet.

Which is exactly my point. A bunch of people doing that to conform with the shibboleth identity of the phone in their pocket and then posting strong opinions about the product they don't (or at least claim not to) use is an echo chamber and not a discussion. You only get the upvotes in these threads if you conform.

HN is supposed to be better than that.

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zargon 2 days ago | parent [-]

> the shibboleth identity of the phone in their pocket

Someone here has religion, and it’s not me. I don’t use Google search because it’s a terrible product and we finally have other options. As for AI, there are dozens of options, and it does not take many examples to see how bad Ai Overview is. Gemini 2.5 Pro, however, is in my tool belt.

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ajross a day ago | parent [-]

> I don’t use Google search [...]

I know. But you're posting confidently (along with a ton of other people) in a subthread about Google search anyway, making statements about its behavior which you straight up admit to be unqualified to make. And I'm calling out the disconnect, because someone has to.

No one in an echo chamber thinks they're in an echo chamber. This is 100% an echo chamber.

	▲	Karrot_Kream a day ago \| parent \| next [-]
		I gave up contributing to these threads years ago. On the edutainment scale HN threads on search have long tipped over to the "entertainment" side. Most of these threads are for people to performatively sneer at ads, javascript, the web, normies etc. HN just can't have conversation about search in a realistic way anymore.
	▲	zargon a day ago \| parent \| prev [-]
		The absurdity of this argument speaks for itself. "You're unqualified to judge it because it's so bad you can't tolerate using it." I suffered through Google search's decline for the last 15 years along with everyone else. I land on it often enough still to see that the trend is not changing.