They are giving things back, that's what a company that sells products is. And the EU/UK should learn something from all this before they have to figure out how to translate all their road signs to Russian or Chinese.

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onestay42 6 days ago | parent [-]

"Yes the company did steal all the wood from the forest—illegally—but at least they're selling us furniture!"

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llbbdd 6 days ago | parent [-]

I struggle to believe that anybody actually cares in this manner, because of the prevalence of bad faith analogies like this one. The trees are still there, and we get furniture. I am not Harper-Collins, I am not Random House. I didn't have a problem when collecting and presenting data like this was called a "search engine" and I don't know why I should believe it's worse now that it can also talk to me.

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onestay42 6 days ago | parent [-]

Those are very good points. I suppose it depends on one's view of IP. I think your comment has actually changed my mind—at least a little bit. Thank you.

	▲	llbbdd 5 days ago \| parent [-]
		Thank you - I do understand the IP argument, especially as it applies to e.g. Meta who may have obtained a lot of their training data illegally, which I think is a wholly separate legal question. I apologize also for referring to your comment as "bad-faith", I have seen the argument applied by other people and cast it onto yours, when I should have just said I didn't think it applied.