I'd rather be free and my data safe than be an economic world leader. False dichotomy, I know, but I don't mind the people before money mindset.

▲ flanked-evergl 6 days ago | parent | next [-]

This is a false dichotomy, you can have privacy and still be militarily and economically relevant.

But say that you were right, and you have to choose between privacy and relevance, if you choose privacy, then once you are entirely economically dependent on Russia (Europe is still paying more in energy money to Russia than in aid to Ukraine) and China — when Europe is a vassal — it won't be able to make its own laws anymore.

▲ staplers 6 days ago | parent | prev | next [-]

  I'd rather be free and my data safe than be an economic world leader.

You often need the latter to maintain the former.

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Y_Y 6 days ago | parent [-]

How often?

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staplers 5 days ago | parent [-]

Ask any non-five-eyes or backdoored chip producing country.

	▲	Y_Y 4 days ago \| parent [-]
		They don't post here often

▲ londons_explore 6 days ago | parent | prev | next [-]

Almost every country or group of countries today is either a world leader, nearly a world leader, or a vassal state of one of the first two.

▲ jimbokun 6 days ago | parent | prev | next [-]

It's not clear that the inscrutable process described is providing either.

▲ ekianjo 6 days ago | parent | prev [-]

With chat control you won't get either.