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notrealyme123 6 days ago

Can't wait for my code being used as training data for Amazon to make a profit

gkbrk 6 days ago | parent | next [-]

I mean no one's forcing you to use Amazon's coding assistant if you hate Amazon. There are plenty of alternatives, both hosted and local, that you can use instead. Not to mention coding without an AI assistant, which is always available.

stingraycharles 6 days ago | parent | prev [-]

Isn’t that only the case for the free tier, which is only fair?

notrealyme123 6 days ago | parent | next [-]

This might be written somewhere, but you have to trust those words.

Most big players in the LLM field are getting their training data by at-least shady, if not illegal measures.

And if they don't care about laws on one side, why should anyone believe that they care on the other?

Amazon already uses their customers privat data to train models [1].

[1] https://www.ftc.gov/business-guidance/blog/2023/06/hey-alexa...

stingraycharles 5 days ago | parent [-]

But you have to consider that AWS with all their enterprise customers is something entirely different than Alexa.

And yes, it’s literally written in their documentation.

https://aws.amazon.com/q/developer/faqs/#topic-1

“ For users who access Amazon Q Developer with the Pro Tier, your content is not used for service improvement, or to train any underlying foundation models (FMs). Unless explicitly opted out, content from Amazon Q Developer Free Tier might also be used to enhance and improve the quality of FMs. Your content will not be used if you use the opt-out mechanism described in the documentation. For more information, see Sharing your data with AWS.”

timeon 6 days ago | parent | prev | next [-]

Yes but restating the obvious sometimes helps to underscore who provides free work for whom. In this day and age it is often the 'user' who does the free labor. Especially, when there was normalized narrative (even before LLMs - with the crowd source) that user is the one being served.

mvanbaak 6 days ago | parent [-]

I totally agree with you. But the OP comment was not that, it was hinting at the fact it would always be used, as they did not add 'in the free tier only' to it.

So while restating the obvious in these cases is very good, it's also good to point out when.

jgalt212 6 days ago | parent | prev | next [-]

I think that's also true for the paid tier.

stingraycharles 5 days ago | parent | next [-]

What makes you say that? Their page literally say that’s not the case.

“ “For users who access Amazon Q Developer with the Pro Tier, your content is not used for service improvement, or to train any underlying foundation models (FMs). Unless explicitly opted out, content from Amazon Q Developer Free Tier might also be used to enhance and improve the quality of FMs. Your content will not be used if you use the opt-out mechanism described in the documentation. For more information, see Sharing your data with AWS.”

https://aws.amazon.com/q/developer/faqs/#topic-1

jgalt212 5 days ago | parent [-]

Because time and time again companies have said they will or won't do something and years later we see that they were not being truthful with their customers. This dig is not solely directed at Amazon, but pretty much every company where they just say "trust me" and you have no way to verify that trust.

stingraycharles 4 days ago | parent [-]

AWS makes almost all of their money with enterprise customers, and violating these types of claims would absolutely not fly there. It would be a huge risk with very little benefits.

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vrighter 6 days ago | parent | prev [-]

oh you sweet child....

stingraycharles 5 days ago | parent [-]

What do you mean? It’s literally written in Amazon Q’s ToS that they don’t use the paid tier for training data, but they do do that for the free tier.

I do not consider Amazon a company that lies about this type of stuff?

https://aws.amazon.com/q/developer/faqs/#topic-1