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xeonmc 2 days ago

Aren’t CF sunsetting Pages in favour of Workers? I would be hesitant relying on something that may be shut down anytime.

yoavm 2 days ago | parent | next [-]

I've just asked the Workers & Pages team (I work at Cloudflare), and that's not true.

"If you’re wondering “What about Pages?” — rest assured, Pages will remain fully supported" https://blog.cloudflare.com/sv-se/builder-day-2024-announcem...

xeonmc a day ago | parent [-]

That’s the corporate promise for now, but there is no Ulysses pact guaranteeing they’d support it forever if the financials don’t line up any more, so the second-best guarantee is if there is a strong self-interest incentive that would remain to be the case even in 20, 30 years? They mentioned that they need scale and so offers generous free tiers as proving ground, but would that incentive stay the same after a few decades?

yoavm a day ago | parent [-]

You do realize you can say that about literally every service in the world, right?

kentonv 2 days ago | parent | prev | next [-]

No no no, Pages will not be "shut down".

Pages is gradually being unified into the Workers platform. For new projects we suggest just starting with Workers as it is strictly more powerful. But eventually existing Pages projects will be migrated to Workers automatically -- either that or we will just keep supporting Pages forever.

There are an enormous number of web sites hosted on Pages, it would be insane for us to turn them off.

xeonmc a day ago | parent [-]

What would happen to the X.pages.dev subdomains when they get auto-migrated? Do they get switched to X.workers.dev silently? My main concern with this sunset is about link rot for those who didn’t use their own domain.

Another concern is whether you’d still be able to get unique .pages.dev subdomains per project, it seems that workers force each account to one subdomain only across all projects. When pages get sunset dies it mean that you’ll no longer be able to make new unique pages.dev subdomains?

Also, the killer feature for many is the ability to just upload a zip hassle-free, both for production and for preview branches, the preview branches potentially serving as an extra subdomain level namespace. Would Workers still support that no-fuss workflow?

kentonv 15 hours ago | parent [-]

Sorry but I think there's still a basic misunderstanding here.

Pages is not going away. It is not "sunsetting".

What is happening is, the implementation is changing to be more closely integrated with Workers.

At present most Pages features are available directly on Workers, but not quite all, but we're working on it. Hence, we're suggesting people use Workers for new projects, but we're not auto-migrating people yet. Once we're feature-complete we'll auto-migrate people to the new implementation.

But the "Pages" brand will continue to exist, as a more-integrated part of the Workers platform. pages.dev will not go away. We will not break anyone's sites. Everything you can do with Pages today should be just as easy if not easier on the new implementation.

Imustaskforhelp 2 days ago | parent | prev | next [-]

I mean, they are sunsetting pages in favour of workers but it seems that static pages even in workers would have unlimited bandwidth and unlimited pages so there seems to have to be no difference and I trust cloudflare enough that they won't really remove these cf pages.

wltr 2 days ago | parent | prev [-]

Do you have some link at hand?

wltr 16 hours ago | parent [-]

Self-commenting. Aha, I entirely missed this: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=44853934