And most of the steps in the interview process are not even technical (depending on the company), so most of your final score probably comes from your sales presentation^W^Wcommunication skills.

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ghaff a day ago | parent [-]

I assume the alternative is that you give some standardized "civil service" exam.

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Apocryphon a day ago | parent [-]

Honestly if it’s an exam you only take once or once every decade it’s an improvement over the current system.

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WorldMaker 2 hours ago | parent | next [-]

It's almost like software wants to be a real profession when it grows up, like Doctor or Lawyer or Engineer. Doctors generally only take the one MCAT. Lawyers generally only take the one Bar Exam per state they expect to work in. Civil/Mechanical/Chemical Engineers only take the one FEng/PE combo of exams for their discipline.

It's fascinating how many people in the software industry want the title "Engineer" but don't want benefits of the title like standardized tests and ethics boards because they are afraid of standardized tests and ethics boards.

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ghaff 21 hours ago | parent | prev [-]

I can't speak to developer exams so much but companies are often looking for specific people who aren't well categorized by standardized exams.

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Gigachad 21 hours ago | parent | next [-]

Or they just don’t trust the exam process. Lot of people with degrees and certifications but no idea. And people with no certifications and great skills.

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Apocryphon 21 hours ago | parent | prev [-]

They’re looking for both. I’m just saying compress the Leetcode rigmarole to a one-time certification exam and then save the interview for the specific people questions. Like how other engineering disciplines do it.

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ghaff 21 hours ago | parent [-]

The one time I took a bunch of tests was out of school for a government job--which I didn't take because it was the lowest of my offers.

I do think the unsatisfactory (to many people here) answer is to assume that if you graduated from the right schools you're probably OK with respect to certification.

	▲	Apocryphon 21 hours ago \| parent [-]
		Ultimately the status quo of getting bombarded with Leetcode rounds every time you want to switch jobs seems untenable, even if in theory each round should get easier with the grind. What happened to DRY. Just take it once and have it be recognized by all.