> but let's also remember that the world in 2013 doesn't exist anymore

Yep. In 2013 the social networks all found out that they can sell censorship to governments all over the world and their users wouldn't even notice it.

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eptcyka 4 days ago | parent | next [-]

What is your argument exactly? The world is worse so we should be OK with that?

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marcosdumay 4 days ago | parent [-]

Exactly that thing Twitter is doing now was one of the main contributors to the world getting worse. That they and all their other competitors have been doing since then.

Free-speech Twitter was either an accident or had a very quick change of mind. And either way, expecting centralized platforms to be of any use here is deeply misguided.

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matthewdgreen 4 days ago | parent | next [-]

Free speech Twitter was the result of a company that had a single business: moving Tweets to people. Musk and Zuckerberg have many interests globally, and picking fights with governments doesn’t serve those interests. Don’t cheer when a billionaire with global business interests buys a (relatively) independent media property and claims he’s bringing “free speech” because (even if he wasn’t defining the term in a distorted way to benefit his interests) he literally could not do that in a meaningful way, he’s too entangled elsewhere.

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postexitus 4 days ago | parent | prev [-]

Counter argument is free-speech twitter created the world of today with unchecked distribution of conspiracy theories, hate speech and fear of other. I am not arguing for censorship, but it is factually wrong that it is censorship that brought us here. The world change before Twitter.

	▲	marcosdumay 4 days ago \| parent [-]
		> unchecked distribution of conspiracy theories, hate speech and fear of other No distribution going on the mainstream social networks today is unchecked. (Except for Watsup, Signal, and the ones like them.)

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postexitus 4 days ago | parent | prev [-]

That is not what happened. The world has changed for the worse and the social networks are the products of their time.

	▲	BlueTemplar 3 days ago \| parent [-]
		Egg and chicken ? Anyway, that doesn't matter, what matters is that the people that are still using platforms are effectively collaborating with totalitarian extremists and should be shunned.